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Anyone can just say 'okay boss', hope the scouting director does his job and make sure the payroll checks get written on time. Sitting ass and letting prospects develop isn't good enough. Sometimes a good GM has to stick his neck out, make an argument to his boss and say 'we NEED to do this'. He has to be able to persuade his boss. My GM doesn't try; we sit on over a billion dollars in franchise equity and approach 9 figure operating profits each year while they refuse to take risks. Moe keeps the checks cashed and never upsets the apple cart so he'll never get fired. Moore, OTOH, absolutely put his job on the line a couple of times. And the Royals have two pennants and a title directly because of those risks. The 'greatest farm system in baseball history' wouldn't have been enough on its own. Moore risked his owners money and his own job security to make that happen and deserves a hell of a lot of credit for not just that, but also for persuading Glass to run with the big dogs at all. Personally, I don't believe he's a particularly astute baseball man, but he's done a good job in KC on balance and deserves the standard '5 year grace period' that comes with a title.
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11-18-2017, 09:59 AM | #62 |
Spiraling down the Drain
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I reluctantly trust GMDM and glASS.
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11-18-2017, 10:06 AM | #63 | |
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Bats just didn't get a market this year. The Royals had pending FA position players in a year where contenders were looking for pitching. He wasn't going to get 'high level prospects' at the deadline. He had nobody approaching Martinez's value and Martinez got 3 afterthought prospects.
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11-18-2017, 10:10 AM | #64 | |
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Unless he was saying that we should have traded them prior to last season, which is equally stupid, IMO.
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11-18-2017, 10:19 AM | #65 | |
Stroking to the SB Champs!
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The Chiefs Franchise is one of the biggest playoff underachievers of all time. The Royals, with all their disadvantages, have overachieved. Anyone that ignores that is being willfully ignorant
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11-18-2017, 10:55 AM | #66 | |
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Yes. Nicky Lopez is a better player/prospect than anyone the Tigers got back for JD Martinez... and it's not like he's an Uber-prospect either. Speaking of Lopez, he's had a nice showing in the Arizona Fall League. Was convinced by the hitting coach to switch to a bigger/heavier bat and has made much more high quality contact with it. Small sample, but will be interesting to see if he can continue to show the massive LD% improvements he has in the Fall League over a full season at Northwest Arkansas. With his speed, base running ability, OBP, and position, if he can be a guy who pops 30 2Bs a year and gets to a .400 SLG, he can be a pretty useful, above average piece. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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11-18-2017, 01:16 PM | #67 |
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Dane is a dumb **** when it comes to baseball, nothing new to see.
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11-18-2017, 01:26 PM | #68 |
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In it to win it 2.0
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11-18-2017, 01:32 PM | #69 | |
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11-18-2017, 01:33 PM | #70 |
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11-18-2017, 01:33 PM | #71 |
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If we are going to suck balls for the next 5 years, we really might consider trading Perez, Duffy, and Whit. Literally everyone of any value. Get as much return for prospects as you can to replenish our worst minor league system.
Trust the process.
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11-18-2017, 02:56 PM | #72 |
Time For Your Wake Up Call !!!
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Well, Dane is Dane. Hell, I heard he is still awaiting Tiny Archibald to get the KC Kings to a NBA Final.
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11-18-2017, 07:07 PM | #73 |
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11-18-2017, 09:45 PM | #74 |
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11-18-2017, 09:50 PM | #75 | |
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Your correction doesn’t make me more confident in our ability to reach the highest levels again. But it does show how good GMDM is at making trades. I’ll always remember and love GMDM for ‘15; I do wish he was much better in the drafts but as you point out he has made some great trades. Now if we could forget Ian and some of the recent disaster signings we’d all be happy.
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