Mark Sanchez > Matt Cassel

[Hammock Parties]

We begin our story with the New York Jets trailing the Detroit Lions by 10 points late in the fourth quarter, on the road.

CHAPTER ONE: Sanchez Infuses Hope In Jets Nation

1-10-NYJ 44 (4:26) (Shotgun) PENALTY on NYJ-67-D.Woody, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at NYJ 44 - No Play.

1-15-NYJ 39 (4:26) (Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short middle to 89-J.Cotchery to DET 43 for 18 yards (54-D.Levy). DET-92-C.Avril was injured during the play.

1-10-DET 43 (4:11) (Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short left to 81-D.Keller to DET 37 for 6 yards (27-A.Smith).

2-4-DET 37 (3:46) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short left to 21-L.Tomlinson pushed ob at DET 31 for 6 yards (26-L.Delmas).

1-10-DET 31 (3:38) (Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass deep middle to 81-D.Keller to DET 6 for 25 yards (98-J.Peterson).

1-6-DET 6 (3:16) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 21-L.Tomlinson right tackle to DET 1 for 5 yards (33-B.McDonald).

2-1-DET 1 (3:00) (No Huddle) 6-M.Sanchez up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.

2-N.Folk extra point is GOOD, Center-46-T.Purdum, Holder-9-S.Weatherford.

NYJ 17 DET 20 Plays: 6 Possession: 1:40

CHAPTER TWO: Sanchez Saves The Day

1-10-NYJ 22 (1:40) (Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short left to 21-L.Tomlinson pushed ob at NYJ 23 for 1 yard (27-A.Smith).

2-9-NYJ 23 (1:34) (Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to 21-L.Tomlinson.

3-9-NYJ 23 (1:30) (Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short left to 81-D.Keller to NYJ 34 for 11 yards (27-A.Smith; 98-J.Peterson).

1-10-NYJ 34 (1:08) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short middle to 21-L.Tomlinson to NYJ 44 for 10 yards (33-B.McDonald).

1-10-NYJ 44 (:49) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short left to 21-L.Tomlinson pushed ob at DET 43 for 13 yards (98-J.Peterson).

DET-27-A.Smith was injured during the play. PENALTY on DET-98-J.Peterson, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at DET 43.

Timeout #2 by DET at 00:40. Charged due to injury.

1-10-DET 28 (:40) (Shotgun) 23-S.Greene up the middle to DET 20 for 8 yards (54-D.Levy).

2-2-DET 20 (:20) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass short left to 23-S.Greene to DET 18 for 2 yards (98-J.Peterson).

1-10-DET 18 (:07) (No Huddle) 6-M.Sanchez spiked the ball to stop the clock.

2-10-DET 18 (:04) 2-N.Folk 36 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-46-T.Purdum, Holder-9-S.Weatherford.

NYJ 20 DET 20 Plays: 9 Possession: 1:40

CHAPTER THREE: Sanchez Cuts The Lion's Throat

1-10-NYJ 32 (14:53) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass incomplete short left to 10-S.Holmes.

2-10-NYJ 32 (14:50) (Shotgun) 6-M.Sanchez pass deep left to 10-S.Holmes to DET 16 for 52 yards (54-D.Levy).

1-10-DET 16 (14:07) 21-L.Tomlinson left end to DET 15 for 1 yard (58-A.Palmer).

2-9-DET 15 (13:28) 21-L.Tomlinson left tackle to DET 12 for 3 yards (91-Sa.Hill).

3-6-DET 12 (12:47) 2-N.Folk 30 yard field goal is GOOD

NYJ 23 DET 20

Totals: 10 for 13, 144 yards, 1 rushing TD, one comeback victory.

Note: The New York Jets are the AFC's #2 seed.

[leviw]

This is not cherrypicking.

Cassel has played 23 games. He's had eight games with 10 notable "comeback" drives. Of the remaining 15 games, the Chiefs weren't competitive in seven. They blew out opponents in three others.

Nov. 7, 2010 - @Raiders
4th quarter, 6:13 to go
Drive: 5 plays, 47 yards, 1:45
Cassel completes a 20-yard, go-ahead touchdown pass to Dwayne Bowe to put the Chiefs go up 20-17. They fall in overtime, 23-20.

Oct. 31, 2010 – vs Bills
Overtime, 0:00 to go
Drive: 8 plays, 53 yards, 1:13
With no timeouts, Cassel completes three passes and directs the Chiefs to the Buffalo 16.Succop hits the game-winner. Chiefs win 13-10.

Overtime, 3:38 to go
Drive: 7 plays, 36 yards, 3:36
Cassel gets the Chiefs to the 22 yard line in overtime, but Ryan Succop misses. Chiefs remained tied 10-10

Sept. 19, 2010 - @Browns
4th quarter, 7:41 to go
Drive: 14 plays, 58 yards, 6:31
Cassel leads the Chiefs on a long drive, completing two, big 3rd down passes, setting up Succop for the go-ahead field goal from 19 yards out. Chiefs go up and go on to win 16-14.

Dec. 27, 2009 - @Bengals
4th quarter, 14:52 to go
Drive: 8 plays, 49 yards, 2:23
On first play of the fourth quarter, Cassel lofts a 20-yard touchdown pass to Tim Castille. Chiefs tie the game, 10-10, but lose late, 17-10.

Dec. 20, 2009 – vs Browns
4th quarter, 2:20 to go
Drive: 8 plays, 58 yards, 2:06
Cassel completes a 12-yard touchdown pass to Mark Bradley on fourth down to tie the game, 34-34. Chiefs defense can’t stop Jerome Harrison and lose 41-34.

Nov. 22, 2009 – vs Steelers
Overtime, 9:28 to go
Drive: 5 plays, 72 yards, 1:32
Cassel completes a crossing pattern to Chris Chambers, who runs 50 yards to the Pittsburgh 4. Succop hits a chip shot game-winner. Chiefs win 27-24.

4th quarter, 4:54 to go
Drive: 8 plays, 91 yards, 3:41
Cassel puts the Chiefs on his back against the defending champs, completing four passes on the game-tying drive, including a shovel pass to Jamaal Charles for the touchdown. The game goes to overtime tied, 24-24.

Oct. 11, 2009 – vs Cowboys
4th quarter, 0:24 to go
Drive: 10 plays, 74 yards, 1:52
Cassel leads a magnificent 10-play drive, capping it with a beautiful 16-yard touchdown pass to Dwayne Bowe on fourth down to tie the game, 20-20, sending it to overtime. Miles Austin wins it for the Cowboys in overtime, 26-20.

Sept. 10, 2009 – vs Raiders
4th quarter, 2:38 to go
Drive: 9 plays, 72 yards, 4:23
All day, the Chiefs offense was the picture of miserable. Then Cassel throws a 29-yard touchdown pass to Dwayne Bowe, giving the Chiefs a 10-6 lead. Somehow, the Chiefs defense inexplicably allows Jamarcus Russel to lead the Raiders to a last-minute victory, 13-10.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Your user name says it all.

eh, i was right

you were wrong....we're all used to it by now

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by leviw

This is not cherrypicking.

You're quite correct.

Neither is this.

Nov. 7, 2010 - @Raiders
4th quarter, 6:13 to go
Drive: 5 plays, 47 yards, 1:45
Cassel completes a 20-yard, go-ahead touchdown pass to Dwayne Bowe to put the Chiefs go up 20-17. They fall in overtime, 23-20.

This "drive" was a joke. Cassel "drove" the Chiefs 30 yards after a bogus fumble. I give him credit for actually nutting up and making a play, but it was hardly anything to be impressed with.

In overtime, Cassel chokes like a bitch with an opportunity to win the game. FAIL.

Oct. 31, 2010 – vs Bills
Overtime, 0:00 to go
Drive: 8 plays, 53 yards, 1:13
With no timeouts, Cassel completes three passes and directs the Chiefs to the Buffalo 16.Succop hits the game-winner. Chiefs win 13-10.

Are you shitting me? Cassel deserves zero credit for finally doing something in a game he almost lost during regulation. **** this shit. No ****ing credit for this. The Chiefs should have blown the Bills out by 30.

Sept. 19, 2010 - @Browns
4th quarter, 7:41 to go
Drive: 14 plays, 58 yards, 6:31
Cassel leads the Chiefs on a long drive, completing two, big 3rd down passes, setting up Succop for the go-ahead field goal from 19 yards out. Chiefs go up and go on to win 16-14.

There is absolutely nothing that was clutch about this. The opposing team had two chances to win the game after this. The defense won the game, not Cassel. A field goal drive with half the quarter left to go is the antithesis of clutch.

Dec. 27, 2009 - @Bengals
4th quarter, 14:52 to go
Drive: 8 plays, 49 yards, 2:23
On first play of the fourth quarter, Cassel lofts a 20-yard touchdown pass to Tim Castille. Chiefs tie the game, 10-10, but lose late, 17-10.

Hey hey, look at this! Another shitty game where Cassel finally leads a touchdown drive and now you want to blow him. This is in the same category as the Buffalo abortion. ****, this was on the first play of the fourth quarter. What about the rest of the fourth quarter? Where was Cassel then? You know, when he could have WON THE GAME? Answer: SHITTING HIS ****ING PANTS.

Dec. 20, 2009 – vs Browns
4th quarter, 2:20 to go
Drive: 8 plays, 58 yards, 2:06
Cassel completes a 12-yard touchdown pass to Mark Bradley on fourth down to tie the game, 34-34. Chiefs defense can’t stop Jerome Harrison and lose 41-34.

I'll give Cassel credit for this. Nice job. Chiefs still didn't win the game.

Nov. 22, 2009 – vs Steelers
Overtime, 9:28 to go
Drive: 5 plays, 72 yards, 1:32
Cassel completes a crossing pattern to Chris Chambers, who runs 50 yards to the Pittsburgh 4. Succop hits a chip shot game-winner. Chiefs win 27-24.

This is a load of bullshit. Cassel dumped the ball to a wide open receiver running a 5-yard pattern. Considering that Cassel FAILED to get the Chiefs into field goal range at the end of regulation and considering that the Chiefs' defense made TWO stops in a row to give Cassel a chance in overtime, Kansas City's defense gets the credit for this win, not Captain Checkdown The Magnificent.

4th quarter, 4:54 to go
Drive: 8 plays, 91 yards, 3:41
Cassel puts the Chiefs on his back against the defending champs, completing four passes on the game-tying drive, including a shovel pass to Jamaal Charles for the touchdown. The game goes to overtime tied, 24-24.

Again, what the ****. This wasn't at the end of the game, it didn't win the game. It's nice that Cassel can lead scoring drives during the game. THAT'S HIS ****ING JOB.

Oct. 11, 2009 – vs Cowboys
4th quarter, 0:24 to go
Drive: 10 plays, 74 yards, 1:52
Cassel leads a magnificent 10-play drive, capping it with a beautiful 16-yard touchdown pass to Dwayne Bowe on fourth down to tie the game, 20-20, sending it to overtime. Miles Austin wins it for the Cowboys in overtime, 26-20.

FAIL. Cassel lost this game when he shit the bed in overtime with a chance to win it. Zero credit, although nice try. Close, but no cigar. That's the story of Matt Cassel.

Sept. 10, 2009 – vs Raiders
4th quarter, 2:38 to go
Drive: 9 plays, 72 yards, 4:23
All day, the Chiefs offense was the picture of miserable. Then Cassel throws a 29-yard touchdown pass to Dwayne Bowe, giving the Chiefs a 10-6 lead. Somehow, the Chiefs defense inexplicably allows Jamarcus Russel to lead the Raiders to a last-minute victory, 13-10.

Oh, yes. The Chiefs were miserable all day on offense and Cassel turned it over twice, but you want to give him credit for finally un****ing himself and doing something worth a shit. **** that. He lost this game with shitty play during the first three and a half quarters. If he was worth a shit JaMarcus Russell would have retired after this game from the assbeating.

Had the Chiefs won this game, the defense would have deserved full credit.

In summary, your post is a giant fail, apart from one good, extremely clutch drive against the Browns and their god awful 29th ranked 2009 secondary

If you ever attempt to paint Cassel as a "clutch" quarterback again, I will rip your mother's nuts off.

NOTHING he has EVER done came close to what Sanchez did in Detroit. If he's ever trailing by 10 in a game with 4 minutes left and the Chiefs win, I will buy his ****ing jersey.

[Stinger]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

You're quite correct.

Neither is this.

This "drive" was a joke. Cassel "drove" the Chiefs 30 yards after a bogus fumble. I give him credit for actually nutting up and making a play, but it was hardly anything to be impressed with.

In overtime, Cassel chokes like a bitch with an opportunity to win the game. FAIL.

Are you shitting me? Cassel deserves zero credit for finally doing something in a game he almost lost during regulation. **** this shit. No ****ing credit for this. The Chiefs should have blown the Bills out by 30.

There is absolutely nothing that was clutch about this. The opposing team had two chances to win the game after this. The defense won the game, not Cassel. A field goal drive with half the quarter left to go is the antithesis of clutch.

Hey hey, look at this! Another shitty game where Cassel finally leads a touchdown drive and now you want to blow him. This is in the same category as the Buffalo abortion. ****, this was on the first play of the fourth quarter. What about the rest of the fourth quarter? Where was Cassel then? You know, when he could have WON THE GAME? Answer: SHITTING HIS ****ING PANTS.

I'll give Cassel credit for this. Nice job. Chiefs still didn't win the game.

This is a load of bullshit. Cassel dumped the ball to a wide open receiver running a 5-yard pattern. Considering that Cassel FAILED to get the Chiefs into field goal range at the end of regulation and considering that the Chiefs' defense made TWO stops in a row to give Cassel a chance in overtime, Kansas City's defense gets the credit for this win, not Captain Checkdown The Magnificent.

Again, what the ****. This wasn't at the end of the game, it didn't win the game. It's nice that Cassel can lead scoring drives during the game. THAT'S HIS ****ING JOB.

FAIL. Cassel lost this game when he shit the bed in overtime with a chance to win it. Zero credit, although nice try. Close, but no cigar. That's the story of Matt Cassel.

Oh, yes. The Chiefs were miserable all day on offense and Cassel turned it over twice, but you want to give him credit for finally un****ing himself and doing something worth a shit. **** that. He lost this game with shitty play during the first three and a half quarters. If he was worth a shit JaMarcus Russell would have retired after this game from the assbeating.

Had the Chiefs won this game, the defense would have deserved full credit.

In summary, your post is a giant fail, apart from one good, extremely clutch drive against the Browns and their god awful 29th ranked 2009 secondary

If you ever attempt to paint Cassel as a "clutch" quarterback again, I will rip your mother's nuts off.

NOTHING he has EVER done came close to what Sanchez did in Detroit. If he's ever trailing by 10 in a game with 4 minutes left and the Chiefs win, I will buy his ****ing jersey.

The same thing you prop up Sanchez for is the same thing you rail against Cassel ......

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Stinger

The same thing you prop up Sanchez for is the same thing you rail against Cassel ......

Hardly. Sanchez led three clutch drives in one game when he absolutely had to.

If Cassel ever does that I'll leave the board for a month.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I read pretty well actually.

No, apparently you don't. I said nothing of leaving you assberger's syndrome drooling idiot.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Is there a reason you cant be forced to keep all 100,000 of your EXACT SAME ****ign posts in one thread instead of shitting over the entire message board?

Talking to you is worthless.

You should be relegated to ONE thread instead of ruining the conversation in every single thread in which you post.

Draftabulator posting is down for the season. GC is just picking up the slack.

[leviw]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Hardly. Sanchez led three clutch drives in one game when he absolutely had to.

If Cassel ever does that I'll leave the board for a month.

Facts are facts, dude.

Ten times in 23 games Cassel has quarterbacked a fourth quarter, game-tying or go-ahead drive. When he absolutely had to.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by leviw

Facts are facts, dude.

Ten times in 23 games Cassel has quarterbacked a fourth quarter, game-tying or go-ahead drive. When he absolutely had to.

The bolded part is incorrect. Drives concluding at the start or midpoint of the fourth quarter are not clutch drives.

And the fact that you want to laud Cassel for a 30-yard "drive" in which he completed all of one pass speaks to your bias.

[Ming the Merciless]

Wouldn't only the last drive be the one where you 'absolutely HAD to make the drive' unless you were down by 3 scores with only exactly enough time for 3 drives?

How are you defining this? It seems like you are making all of these bullshit conditions so that you can argue he didn't "ABSOLUTELY" have to make the drive,....

So let me get this right, if we are ever down by three scores, and with only exactly enough time for 3 drives, and we come back and win in the 4th Q, you will give matty some credit?

**** you and your bullshit definitions....You could leave this board for a year and no one would even care.

You are so ****ign stupid and pathetic it is embarrassing with your lame ass criteria.

[leviw]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

How are you defining this?

Answer: However he wants to.

[Hammock Parties]

There is absolutely nothing clutch about Cassel hitting a game tying pass on the first play of the fourth quarter.

That is a load of crap.

You people will do anything to paint Cassel in a positive light.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

You could leave this board for a year and no one would even care.

I have a feeling that if GoChiefs was gone for a year.....he'd have his own thread wondering what happened to him. You? Not so much.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

You people will do anything to paint Cassel in a positive light.

I don't see anyone doing this. I see you doing EVERYTHING to point out negatives...

There is not a flood of positive threads about Castle...Never has been.

You're just a liar at this point. No credibility whatsoever.

[leviw]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

There is absolutely nothing clutch about Cassel hitting a game tying pass on the first play of the fourth quarter.

That is a load of crap.

You people will do anything to paint Cassel in a positive light.

Fine. Take that one out -- even though I never defined anything about what I posted as "clutch," only as "fourth quarter comeback drives," which is 100 percent accurate.

Nine drives in eight games.