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Old 03-17-2013, 03:52 PM   #1
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what a pussy.
Yes, that's exactly it.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:55 PM   #2
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what a pussy.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:26 PM   #3
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I remember doing a drill in 7th Grade where each player stood in the center of a circle of other players and the coach would call out a player number who would rush in and try to level the person at the middle. That person would get slammed good each time often without having any idea where the hit was coming from. I guess the point was to develop improved awareness and to learn to take hits.

In the end, it played a role in my choosing not to keep playing football in HS. It also seems like, looking back, exactly the kind of drill the may have left kids with concussions that we never knew about.


If this is the drill that pushed you out of football, it's a damn good thing your vagina never saw the field in an actual tough physical game.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:41 PM   #4
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If this is the drill that pushed you out of football, it's a damn good thing your vagina never saw the field in an actual tough physical game.
Some of you people are exactly the problem.

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Dear Coach,
Our son's coach was trying to do a bullring drill last night. I have heard nothing positive about this drill, plus have heard a lot of associations have banned or just stopped using it. What are your feelings on this drill?

Thank you,

Concerned parent


Hi Parent,

This is a drill that was in fashion a long time ago and one you do not see used as much today. The premise of the drill is that it will develop toughness in the individual players.

A Bull in the Ring drill is where a group of players form a circle with one player in the center. One at a time, the players in the ring attack the player in the center by charging at him. The player must adjust his position and try to neutralize the attack, then reset and prepare for another player. The drill continues until the coach calls an end and puts another player in the center.

My feeling as a coach has always been to use my valuable practice time conducting drills that teach a technique or skill that the player can and should use when playing the game. I never felt that this drill served that purpose.

Often when we as coaches use a drill of this nature, it has the opposite result. The players may go through with the drill, but in the end it often is cause for them to no longer have the desire to continue to play football. Developing this desire to play is something every coach should try to promote.

Every practice drill should be built on teaching, repetition and understanding by the player and designed to increase the opportunity for the player to enjoy success on the playing field and not to have needless contact.

My hope would be that this coach would introduce his players to feeling comfortable with contact by teaching safe tackling and blocking techniques in supervised drills that carry over to actions in a game.

Coach Tom Bass

Coach Tom Bass, the technical writer and advisor for USA Football, is a 30-year NFL coach who has also authored several books, including "Play Football the NFL Way" - the first "how to" book ever authorized and published by the NFL. Coach Bass is happy to personally autograph his books to you. Book ordering information can be found at http://www.coachbass.com/.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:25 AM   #5
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Wow, kids are getting concussions in Pop-Warner? WTF?


I have been involved in some fairly massive shots through Jr High and HS, (giving and receiving) and never got a concussion. I guess I am just lucky.
You've never been diagnosed. And as a kid, how would you ever self diagnose. Perhaps it's more likely to happen now than in the past.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:22 AM   #6
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:39 AM   #7
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Emmit smith must be suffering the effects of using the crown of his helmet during his career. This sounds like a great idea NFL

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This rule fails at life. Keep ****ing with the rules and soon it will be so pussified nobody will be interested anymore.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:49 AM   #8
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This change wont happen, they are proposing it so that they can say they did. Anyone can see that it cannot pass and allow the game to remain even closely the same.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:15 PM   #9
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:57 PM   #10
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So an 18 year old can join the army and put his life at risk while making next to nothing, and I'm supposed to worry about what could happen to a multi millionaire that plays a game for a living?

The rule changes are lame and that's that.

What's next? MMA fights without punching?
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:01 PM   #11
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So an 18 year old can join the army and put his life at risk while making next to nothing, and I'm supposed to worry about what could happen to a multi millionaire that plays a game for a living?

The rule changes are lame and that's that.

What's next? MMA fights without punching?
You should worry more about when soldiers are forced into war and less about what the NFL does with it's rules.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:00 PM   #12
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You should worry more about when soldiers are forced into war and less about what the NFL does with it's rules.
Fans have every right to bitch about these rule changes. The violence is what makes the game great. Viewership will plummet and the sport will die if we continue to go down this path.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:15 PM   #13
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Fans have every right to bitch about these rule changes. The violence is what makes the game great. Viewership will plummet and the sport will die if we continue to go down this path.
Talk to him about his soliders/war standards for his worry. Not me.

Our society, and humanity in general fears the unknown, and change brings unknown. History shows that most things work out. And when they don't, we change it again.

But reality is what's going to threaten football, not rule changes. Reality is that it's a sport that's been played in a way that has lead to brain damage and subsequent death for players. And the NFL sees the long term risks that many fans could care less about.

Change is rarely as traumatic as those who fear it predict. New rules will be tested, implemented and adjusted if it doesn't work.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:22 PM   #14
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Talk to him about his soliders/war standards for his worry. Not me.

Our society, and humanity in general fears the unknown, and change brings unknown. History shows that most things work out. And when they don't, we change it again.

But reality is what's going to threaten football, not rule changes. Reality is that it's a sport that's been played in a way that has lead to brain damage and subsequent death for players. And the NFL sees the long term risks that many fans could care less about.

Change is rarely as traumatic as those who fear it predict. New rules will be tested, implemented and adjusted if it doesn't work.
As long as players understand the risks that are involved, who cares? What happened to personal responsibility? The fans' opinion does matter because the violence sells the sport. Without the violence, no one will watch.
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There are tons of drills it seems for football that does nothing but promote huge hits that sound good, but don't actually help tackling.
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