****Official Chiefs romp in NE media dump thread****

[Hammock Parties]

Holy shit. This should all go in a time capsule.

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[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Dirty little secret was that he didn't look that great in the first half either. That was what had me so frustrated. The throw to Walker when he was left uncovered on that first drive was just a poor throw that turned Walker around. He was behind and off on a couple of timing routes as well.

Had the Chiefs put up any sort of challenge he wouldn't have coasted. Their 2nd TD drive was due in large part to the running game. Then he made that spectacular throw to Cooks (felt bad for Mitchell; guy was having a rough day already and wasn't in a bad spot there, Brady just dropped an absolutely perfect ball in).

But really, Brady wasn't great for most of that game. Then the shithead goes to the press conference and starts yapping about how the team didn't show compete and didn't bring a champions mindset. Y'know what, Tom - you weren't exactly helping matters out there yourself, brosef.

He looked like a 40 year old qb. He wasn't good and I think it's obvious bill knows it's coming. He could have locked up the d by trading garrapolo this offseason and he held in to him.

That says alot

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

He looked like a 40 year old qb. He wasn't good and I think it's obvious bill knows it's coming. He could have locked up the d by trading garrapolo this offseason and he held in to him.

That says alot

Bill's gonna be in for a rude awakening when his next QB isn't married to a multi-millionaire and is going to actually expect to be paid according to his talent.

The thing that's made Brady a double pain in the ass over the years is that he's leaving $10 million+ in cash/cap on the table every year because the money is immaterial for him. So when the Pats go sign Stephon Gilmore and throw an offer sheet at Gillislee while trading for Cooks because they have more than enough space for ALL of that, it's because they have Brady making $10+ million less than he could be. Brady's contract made it possible to get those guys.

It doesn't matter what Belichick does to prepare - if Brady is truly starting to slide a bit, there's nothing in the world that will make up for it. His value goes beyond just his ability, it's the players that Brady's constant 'discounts' allows the Patriots to get as well.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by lcarus

I was just looking at that 2015 NFL draft again. 2 corners taken before Peters. Trae Waynes to Minnesota at pick 11 and Kevin Johnson to Houston at pick 16. Neither of those guys could sniff Peters jock strap. Damn it feels good to have a staff that can see talent.

Veach seems to have the same due diligence that brought us Peters and Hill. Allowing Peters to slide to us should've cost someone their job.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Bill's gonna be in for a rude awakening when his next QB isn't married to a multi-millionaire and is going to actually expect to be paid according to his talent.

The thing that's made Brady a double pain in the ass over the years is that he's leaving $10 million+ in cash/cap on the table every year because the money is immaterial for him. So when the Pats go sign Stephon Gilmore and throw an offer sheet at Gillislee while trading for Cooks because they have more than enough space for ALL of that, it's because they have Brady making $10+ million less than he could be. Brady's contract made it possible to get those guys.

It doesn't matter what Belichick does to prepare - if Brady is truly starting to slide a bit, there's nothing in the world that will make up for it. His value goes beyond just his ability, it's the players that Brady's constant 'discounts' allows the Patriots to get as well.

Oh absolutely.

It was inevitable. Frankly, even with 5 they've gotta feel like they left a SN or two in the table.

Freaking dynasty and I hope it finally ends

[-King-]

I also think the hurry up offense that worked so well for the Patriots is also the same thing that killed them. They had no energy in the second half and the chiefs just did anything they wanted. Probably not a good idea to run a hurry up offense first game of the season especially when starters played about 4 combined drives in the preseason.
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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by -King-

I also think the hurry up offense that worked so well for the Patriots is also the same thing that killed them. They had no energy in the second half and the chiefs just did anything they wanted. Probably not a good idea to run a hurry up offense first game of the season especially when starters played about 4 combined drives in the preseason.
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There was a period of time there after the Patriots took the lead that things started to look a little dark. I believe the Chiefs put up 2 straight 3 and outs and it looked like the Pats were the stronger club.

The Chiefs were down and deep in their own territory. The Pats hadn't lost a game they took a lead into the 4th quarter during Brady's entire career and NE had seemingly started to gain some momentum on offense even if they couldn't quite finish off drives.

And then came the throw to Hunt. It's impossible to overstate the impact of that play - just enormous. Another punt back to NE may have been all it took to turn that game around. Instead Smith stands in the pocket and delivers a friggen strike to Hunt completely in-stride (which is good because that DE he was matched up against was still gaining ground on him before he failed on his tackle attempt; if that ball is placed 6 inches in any direction from where it was, it's not a TD.)

That's why I'm trying not to get too high over the W. The Pats showed nothing defensively and their QB wasn't clicking. His top 2 WRs were down with injuries and the rest were inexperienced. And despite all that, they had a lead in the 4th and if that throw isn't absolutely perfect things could be very different.

So it demonstrates two points - 1) Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet. 2) That play that many of us always say could be the 'one play that pulls a game from the fire' that Smith so often didn't make, got made here and that's what changed it. All the "but Drops!" and "run defense" etc, etc... can kinda go by the wayside if you just make that one big goddamn play at the exact moment you need to make it.

Spectacular throw and really a spectacular game all around.

[Mav]

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[DJ's left nut]

Some of those plays are just a symphony of coaching awesomeness.

Soren said it today and got it right - Andy Reid will get a guy 'high school open' through pure scheme at least once or twice a game. Those times where the play design is just so damn clever that suddenly things open up.

That rocket toss for Hunt's TD run? That was off a similar concept as those shovel passes and you have to believe all those in the back of their minds held up those LBers a little. The deep throw to Hunt - anyone notice what Hill was up to? He was strictly a decoy designed to pull the safety out of the middle. Safety crashes up to spy Hill in the flats and the middle comes wide open for Hunt to fly up the seam.

Hill's TD wasn't quite so clever; that was just McCourty eating shit in cover 2 and biting on Kelce (wonder if they saw something on tape there).

Reid's just a hell of a coach, fellas. The guy is mortal and has his annoying quirks like anyone else, but the big ol' boy is always playing chess out there.

My worry is that Matt Nagy is going to be a damn good HC in this league and Reid won't want to leave before Nagy gets offered a job. I'd love to see Reid helm the ship for another 3-4 years (ideally win a title in there) then turn the reins over to Nagy.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Frosty

You and DJLN should form a club.

Hey now, I said he'd get about 1,200 yards of total offense. I didn't say he'd suck and I said I really liked his vision and ability to catch out of the backfield.

But admittedly, I damn sure didn't see him doing what he did tonight And again, my biggest worry was straight line speed and let's not act like Marsh wasn't gaining on him or that McCourty didn't gain 5 yards in the span of 15 on that long run in the 4th; the cat ain't fast. That said, he's elusive as hell.

He's the same type of back I thought he'd be, he just appears to be a much better version of it. I figured Tomas Rawls and last night he looked like Faulk if he had a couple early knee injuries. Did not see that coming.

[BigRedChief]

Pats were 102-1 when leading by 10 points at home since the 2001 season.

[JakeF]

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[sedated]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Like I know I've been wrong about players before, but I've never been so ****ing wrong about a player and knew it immediately.

Kareem Hunt is ****ing special. His floor is Maurice-Jones Drew. He might be like a slower Marshall Faulk.

Hunt's first carry





Hunt's third carry (averaging about 9 each)





Hunt's TD reception





End of the game

[The Franchise]

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[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by sedated

Hunt's first carry





Hunt's third carry (averaging about 9 each)





Hunt's TD reception





End of the game

Perfect.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hey now, I said he'd get about 1,200 yards of total offense. I didn't say he'd suck and I said I really liked his vision and ability to catch out of the backfield.

But admittedly, I damn sure didn't see him doing what he did tonight And again, my biggest worry was straight line speed and let's not act like Marsh wasn't gaining on him or that McCourty didn't gain 5 yards in the span of 15 on that long run in the 4th; the cat ain't fast. That said, he's elusive as hell.

He's the same type of back I thought he'd be, he just appears to be a much better version of it. I figured Tomas Rawls and last night he looked like Faulk if he had a couple early knee injuries. Did not see that coming.

Go look at the gif again. He was pulling away from Marsh which is why Marsh made that desperation attempt at a tackle. On the long run, he ran 58 yards before the corner ran him down. There aren't many RBs that can outrun corners.

I was excited about drafting Hunt because I felt his outstanding vision and balance would trump his lack of breakaway speed. I think most coaches expect the running game to to pick up 4-5 yards, wear out the defense and shorten the clock, not rip off 80 yard TD runs. Add in Hunt's pass catching ability and I feel you have a perfect Andy Reid RB.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hunt got run down from behind by a LBer.

I'm not saying I need a 4.3 guy back there, but there's plenty of space between that and Hunt's mid 4.6. And he doesn't even look that fast on tape.

I still feel like passing on Kamara for K-Pass may end up hurting us. And if they were absolutely sold on Kpassagnon there, I'd have preferred Foreman to Hunt. Foreman isn't a burner but he has open field speed - if he hits a seam, he's going to break through it and be gone (Lamar Miller was a great example of that in Miami - give him a seam and he'll hit it and pull away).

You give Hunt that seam and he'll get 13 yards. Maybe he'll put a move on a DB and get to 17 before the backside contain runs him down. He's just incredibly underwhelming physically.

He's all balance and vision which may be enough to keep him at 4-4.2 YPC but it still makes him just another limited option on a team with a QB who limits the aerial attack as well. So now to score a touchdown you're stuck with 7 yards per catch passes and 4-5 yard rushes. You need a 14 plays or a short field if you want to put one in the endzone that way. A holding call or even a false start probably kills the drive. A stuff on 1st down likely does the same because this offense isn't going to work well behind the sticks.

which looks like you are basically bashing him for not being Charles. However, if Hunt is more Priest than Charles, I'm perfectly fine with that.