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**Tribal Warfare** · 08-15-2011, 02:27 AM

Chiefs' Haley not changing approach to preseason
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

ST. JOSEPH | The Chiefs looked unprepared for Friday night’s exhibition opener compared with their opponents, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The fact the Chiefs were dominated in a 25-0 defeat was perhaps inevitable given that they spent the previous two weeks of training camp working more on conditioning than football.

They may be in for more of the same Friday night when the preseason schedule continues with a game against the Ravens in Baltimore. Coach Todd Haley said he won’t alter the approach this week as camp resumes at Missouri Western.

The Chiefs returned to practice Sunday afternoon.

“I feel really good about the plan,” Haley said. “I said it after the game, it was the first one and not the last one, and I’m going all the way to the last one of the season. We’re in training camp, and as I keep telling the players, there’s no light at the end of the tunnel. Each and every day counts for us and for them to getting this team where it needs to be to start the season.

“I feel good about what we’re doing. We have a plan for this week. We’re going to have another game Friday at Baltimore. But the plan is again going to revolve more about us than anything else right now.”

The Chiefs were in full pads Sunday for the entire practice for the first time at camp. There was some contact but not to the normal standards for a padded practice at camp.

Haley said he is preparing for the Chiefs for the regular season, which begins Sept. 11 against Buffalo at Arrowhead Stadium. He indicated the route he’s taking for the Chiefs is best given the lack of offseason practice and conditioning sessions because of the lockout.

The Chiefs didn’t practice in pads or hold as many contact drills as several other NFL teams during the first two weeks of camp. Haley said he wants all players on equal footing with regard to physical conditioning before he turns them loose in practice.

“I don’t think we’re out of the woods as far as where we are physically,” Haley said. “We’ve got a couple of new, new guys on the roster in addition to some guys that weren’t quite there as last week wound down. That’s still the No. 1 thing for us and for me as the head coach is to get this team taking every day possible to physically get these guys into a position to succeed and hold up for what we hope is a good, long season.

“This time of year, you’re used to being in pads a little more and you’re used to doing things a little differently but (this year) it’s a different set of circumstances. The goal is to be ready for Sept. 11. That’s all really that I’m focused on, and these other things will take care of themselves.”

Haley said some of his assistants had been pushing him to do more in practice. At least one member of the staff, defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel, said he understood the situation because it’s been such a strange year for both players and coaches.

“Every team is doing things different,” Crennel said. “Everybody is trying to figure it out. You do what you feel like is best and you go from there. That’s what we’re doing. We think we can be ready Sept. 11.”

Haley resisted the urging from his assistants to bring the Chiefs along faster.

“As the head coach, you have to look at the big picture all the time,” Haley said. “I’ve been an assistant coach and I know how assistant coaches think … they have their area or their agenda that they have to worry about first and foremost, but it’s my job to look at the big picture.

“We’ve got a great, experienced coaching staff. We have great conversations, but there hasn’t been a time when we’ve left any meeting or gone to spread the message to the players that we’re not all on the same page.”

Haley said that after watching the video of the Tampa Bay game, the situation wasn’t as bad as it looked at first glance. On offense, the Chiefs had just 137 yards and had trouble blocking for their quarterbacks.

On defense, the Chiefs missed some tackles. Both are symptoms of when a team hasn’t adequately prepared, at least from a physical standpoint.

“When you watch a game live, when there’s a jailbreak offensively and the quarterback is under great duress, you tend to think it’s everybody,” Haley said. “But it was one guy here, one guy there. It wasn’t three or four guys all with breakdowns.

“It was the same defensively. Our defense only works if everybody is doing their job first. We had some instances where one guy got out of place, and that then made a lot of guys look like maybe they weren’t doing that they’re supposed to.”

crazycoffey · 08-15-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Did you see that Scott set the draft date?

same location?

rocknrolla · 08-15-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Question(And I am truly asking, not being sarcastic): Do we know how many of NE backups are rookies? I ask because I think NE is one of those teams that was going to survive the lockout better than most due to the nucleus of the team. I think the same of Pittsburgh. We still have a ton of newbies on our 2nd and 3rd teams. We as a team are not even close to the consistency in NE. or PITT
FWIW, I dont mind Haley taking this approach, it just sucks to watch.

IMO. NE and PITT have had the luxury of building their teams through the draft for a much longer time. We have only started since Carl's departure. So their second and third teams are much more experienced. I really like what Haley is doing. IMO, conditioning is the key to avoiding injuries.

Blick · 08-15-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by warispeace

I couldn't disagree more. If we had to play with our 2nd string O-line we would lose 16 games. Keeping our starters healthy is absolutely critical.

This season more than most will be a war of attrition. If we can stay ahead of the league on the injury list I think we're halfway there.

You're not looking at injuries realistically. How likely is it that all 5 of our starting O-linemen get injured at the same time? Normally, you plug in one guy here...another guy there.

How did we look against Seattle last year with Richardson filling in for Albert at LT and O'Failaghan filling in at RT?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-15-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

same location?

I believe so, but unconfirmed. Even if no one else shows, you're more than welcome to.

crazycoffey · 08-15-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I believe so, but unconfirmed. Even if no one else shows, you're more than welcome to.

Did I tell you we bought a new house? I think we're closer to you, we're certainly closer to JR's work, that area.

And we just got a pool table. I need to put part of the floor down and then level the table so I can get started on the bar area.

Sidenote - See phobia, I told you I wouldn't get started as early as I previously stated. I'm such a slacker.

Carlota69 · 08-15-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla

IMO. NE and PITT have had the luxury of building their teams through the draft for a much longer time. We have only started since Carl's departure. So their second and third teams are much more experienced. I really like what Haley is doing. IMO, conditioning is the key to avoiding injuries.

Thats pretty much what I was thinking...we are still a very young team and this offseason, or lack thereof, is going to affect teams like ours more than NE or PITT. Im not gonna freak over preseason games, especially this year.

**Easy 6** · 08-15-2011, 03:46 PM

In Haley I Trust... he's not going to cut corners & rush guys into injuries, would i have liked to see him personally body slam Raheem Morris? yes, but as has already been said eleventybillion times, its just preseason.

One step at a time.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-15-2011, 04:35 PM

Good God.

@ at the bleeding vaginas in this thread.

BryanBusby · 08-15-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Why dont fans ever get stoked when the Royals win the Arizona Cactus League every year?

A typical fan will. A typical fan also has an IQ of less than a houseplant, though.

There should be no surprise that people are losing their ****ing minds over one pre-season game after an unusual offseason and many altered rules.

veist · 08-15-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie

PK, ever the moron.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1V7OVMfAt

Yeah, to phrase things like that douche: Is Peter King biggest hack in sports journalism? Quite possibly.

DTLB58 · 08-15-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007

I wish there were only 2 preseason games 4 is way too many.

And here I thought the CBA negotiations were over.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-15-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Good God.

@ at the bleeding vaginas in this thread.

Typical thread, eh?

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-15-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

two years ago, Haley was too hard on the players....and he was losing the team!!!!!1OMGWTF?, now all of a sudden, he's too soft?

meh. not arguing style points.

HE'S LOST CHARLES OMG 11!!!11!!!!!

Okie_Apparition · 08-15-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Good God.

@ at the bleeding vaginas in this thread.

They'll be starting food threads in a few months. They'll catch a Stanzi performance while ovulating

TEX · 08-15-2011, 07:41 PM

The Chiefs looked unprepared even for a practice...
BUT IF that was "the plan" then they achieved perfection!

08-15-2011, 02:27 AM
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