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Those systems take into account numbers and nothing else.
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Let me ask you (taking from your previous example): which is more valuable to a team, a screen pass that goes for 18 yards, or an 18 yard pass with no YAC? |
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However, when determining credit for a play, and what a QB should be praised for, an 18-yard strike into a tight window is far more praiseworthy.
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And it has an even weaker correlation than QBR and Passer Rating..
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Do Palmer, Schaub, Stafford and Cutler deserve more praise for their passing performances than Peyton? |
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yeah, one should listen to justblowin'cassle when it comes to QBs...
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It's just one ****ing game. It is possible for Carson Palmer to play slightly better than Peyton Manning in one week out of their entire careers.
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Don't know if anyone cares but Mike Florio is joined by PFT managing editor Michael David Smith to pick Chiefs to win.
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I'm not debating that it's possible for any of those guys to outplay Peyton one week. I just don't see it happening the week that Peyton happens to throw 7 TDs and 0 INTs. |
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One of those seven TD passes was a freaking bubble screen that DT took to the house. That's weighted a lot lower than a more difficult throw for the QB in PFF metrics. If you want the most accurate QB rating system, it IS PFF. It's not perfect, but it's the best we've got. It does awesome things, like tell us Matt Cassel actually sucked in 2010.
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Why does difficulty matter? If a QB plays a game with one shoe, it would be a lot more difficult than playing with two. He'd probably get a higher PFF rating. |
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Because quarterbacks who attempt and complete more difficult passes deserve higher ratings than those who do not.
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