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Marvin Lewis IMO has 'peter principled' out at a DC position. He is not a HC. Just like Romeo,Wade, Spags, Haslett, etc... and the list goes on
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11-24-2012, 11:10 AM | #64 | |
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It absolutely is a critical need. Quality talent? So you'd be ok with putting marginal talent back there? Lewis doesn't really do anything well. He doesn't like to tackle, is terrible in space. His coverage skills are ok. Hopefully the next regime that comes in puts Berry at FS and ends this bullshit.
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11-24-2012, 11:12 AM | #65 | |
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That Bengal team is tough. Very tough. He lets the coordinators coordinate and the players now seem to enjoy him. I don't think they should make a change now.
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11-24-2012, 11:17 AM | #67 | |
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In terms of building a team, if we are a good team outside of the free safety position, we will be fine. Lots of terrific teams have had average free safety talent. It is a luxury position. There's a reason why good safeties often fall outside the first round. If it was such a critical position and such a hard one to fill, they'd be top 10 picks. |
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11-24-2012, 11:21 AM | #68 | |
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I don't know how good he is. But he is definitely limited under a management that is as dysfunctional as kc. |
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I know we are talking safeties here but I really believe Pioli allowing Carr to get away really screwed up the defensive psyche of this team which has effected everyone else's play(psyche) on the D to some degree this year as well
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the best teams in the NFL have good safeties
49ers- Goldson and Whitner Ravens - Ed Reed and Bernie Pollard Patriots - Devin McCourty, Pat Chung, Steve Gregory Texans - Manning and Quinn Steelers - Ryan Clark, Troy Polamalu, Will Allen Giants - Antrelle Rolle, Stevie Brown Packers - Morgan Burnett, Charles Woodson Bears - Major Wright, Chris Conte Falcons - William Moore, Thomas Decoud Bucs - Mark Barron, Ronde Barber Seahawks - Kam Chancellor, Earl Thomas all these teams with winning records have really good safety play on the backend or they platoon a bunch of okay players together (Patriots) we have shit at the position, no talent, no depth, no anything. And Fat Scott is to blame, because its not like the cupboard was bare when he came, and he only made it worse. Page and Pollard were 10x better than what we put back there today. |
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your logic is so flawed. so in a pass happy NFL league where there are tons of good QBs passing at will, it is a LUXURY to have good safeties? Think about that for a minute. You think you can get by having crap at safety. Newflash, we have had garbage at safety for the last like 10 years, and we have been awful. At some point you need ballhawking playmakers and safeties that arent afraid to hit someone and play the run. We have had NONE of that. Kendrick Lewis cant catch a cold and he cant hit the broad side of a barn if he tried. |
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The idea that we should be freaking out because Kendrick lewis is starting is stunning. I want an upgrade too. But we can get a good enough replacement in the second or third round or later. And good enough is fine. And if they don't replace Kendrick Lewis, it's not even close to as big a miss as not having good pass rushers, nose tackle play, or cornerback play. Unless you have Ed reed talent, the strong safety is still more crucial than the free. |
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