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**The Franchise** · 04-30-2013, 02:07 PM

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 7m

Jaguars former first-round pick WR Justin Blackmon is being suspended four games by the NFL, per league sources. More on NFL Live now.

B14ckmon on suicide watch.

Hootie · 04-30-2013, 05:57 PM

dude he quotes PFF as gospel

PFF had Alex Smith as their #8 overall QB 2 years ago and he was on pace to get back to his same PFF positive number last year...

so either GoChiefs is a hypocrite or he doesn't have the slightest idea what he's talking about

Hammock Parties · 04-30-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Actually, you are misusing information.

You just said that Alex Smith throws MORE short passes than anyone. Then you cited his AVERAGE depth of target. Those two are not the same thing.

Dumbass.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...hiefs-getting/

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The Harbaugh Years (2011-2012): The Not So Good

While Smith’s stats above took a major uptick starting in 2011, there were still some red flags. While his 70.2 completion percentage last season was impressive, it also showed his unwillingness to take chances and throw the ball downfield. His average depth of target of only 8 yards was the fourth-lowest of all quarterbacks and only 8.7 percent of Smith’s passes traveled 20+ yards downfield in 2012. Among quarterbacks who started at least half their games, only Christian Ponder had a lower percentage.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-30-2013, 06:07 PM

Eight percent? He's a Dinking Queen.

All Red Tribe Smith "highlight" films must be set to ABBA. Sweet Dick has spoken.
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lcarus · 04-30-2013, 06:10 PM

Blackmon banned, just like his internet counterpart.

saphojunkie · 04-30-2013, 06:13 PM

ON A SIDE NOTE

Your sig is also misleading. It is implies (falsely) that all it takes to beat Alex Smith is to score 24 points, which is simply not true. Alex Smith's team might have lost 34-27, and guess what? He beat your arbitrary deadline of 24 points.

Secondly, it implies that Alex Smith cannot win a game if he has to score more than 24 points. Again, a wild inaccuracy. Last season, 7 out of his 10 games, Alex Smith led the offense to at least 24 points. Yes, the two games they lost the opposing team scored 24 points, but that hardly is the definitive stat. There were plenty of weeks where his team could have beaten that point total. They didn't that week. It is literally arbitrary.

Lastly, we have to go back three years to find any significant amount of games lost to teams who scored 24 points. To be more clear, in 2012 Alex Smith lost TWO GAMES to teams that scored 24 points. In 2011, he lost to ONE TEAM that scored 24 points.
So yeah, three times in the past two years, Alex Smith lost when his opponent scored 24 points. My god! Whatever shall we do!

How about this?
Over the past two years, Alex Smith has won 10 games where the opponent didn't score 24 points... but his team scored at least 25.

I get it, you hate the Alex Smith trade. I was disappointed, too. But you're cherry picking statistics and it just doesn't equal out to be the horrific situation that you proclaim.

58kcfan89 · 04-30-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm starting to think they know he's a stop-gap and they're using him to keep the seat warm while they build an offense around the QB.

By the time we do draft a legit QBOTF he'll have a strong line and targets to throw to and Smith will once again be kicked to the curb...

This is kinda what I'm thinking, that we're on the Washington plan. Some of my info may be a bit off, but bear with me...

When Shanarat went to Washington, he supposedly said it was a 5-year rebuild and actually drafted to that plan (at least initially). Tried to shore up the line by drafting Trent Williams #4 overall and acquiring Jamaal Brown. Williams worked out, Brown not so much, but the rest of their 2010 draft wasn't exactly good from what I can tell. Went with a 34-year old Donovan McNabb & Rex Grossman at QB & went 6-10.

2011 Draft wasn't a stellar one for QBs. Newton, Gabbert, Ponder, Locker all went high, and Newton wasn't going to be had. They apparently didn't like any of them (could have had Gabbert at 10 but traded down), so Washington traded down, got more picks & did what they could to upgrade the rest of the team. QBs that year were Rex Grossman & John Beck and the team went 5-11.

2012 Robert Griffin is available. They feel like their roster is one that a young QB can succeed with and make the move necessary to grab him. 10-6, playoffs, a shitload of jersey sales & everything we want in KC.

My point is that I can see this as our version of Washington's 2010 draft. If Fisher pans out (which he damn well better), it'll make life a lot easier down the road.

Next year, if there's a QB we want & aren't in range, maybe we can make a big move because we have some talent across the board. If not, keep acquiring picks and/or talent so the team is as good as possible when your QB arrives. It may take a few years, but I sincerely doubt that Reid and Dorsey honestly view Smith as a QB they can win a Super Bowl with. I think they think he's better than we do, but I don't think they're nuts.

Then again, we could just be Kansas City Chiefs fans and never draft a QB.... Probably more likely. I'm not completely in love with what the Reid/Dorsey regime have done thus far, but if the above is the plan, I suppose I can bear it for a year or two while we wait. It sucks, but the idea of overdrafting a QB, especially high in the first, just to take one seems counterproductive to me, especially given that only 1 went in the first 40 or so picks last week. We're clearly not the only team who thought it was a bad QB class.

saphojunkie · 04-30-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

Dumbass.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...hiefs-getting/

Once again, I'm not saying that Alex Smith didn't throw the greatest number of short passes, but you are still using the wrong information to prove it.

There is a difference between volume, percentage, and average. They are not interchangeable statistics.

RunKC · 04-30-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

I don't care. We're talking about OUR quarterback.

Yes you do care.

Here's undeniable proof.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=272597

**ChiefGator** · 04-30-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

They have to draft fatties to protect his little princess ass. Get ready to see even more drafted next year. But like you say, even the best line in the NFL can't Febreeze the shit-stink that is Alice's crusty, bunghole of "talent", and his replacement should benefit nicely.
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So.. we draft tackles to protect our QB?!? What the hell!

I bet no other team in the league does that!

God, this has got to be a final nail in Reid/Dorsey's coffin!

Spott · 04-30-2013, 06:48 PM

How does Alex Smith being a shitty QB with no potential in this league have anyting to do with Justin Blackmon being suspended?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-30-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

So.. we draft tackles to protect our QB?!? What the hell!

I bet no other team in the league does that!

God, this has got to be a final nail in Reid/Dorsey's coffin!

We had a serviceable line that any competent QB could operate behind. Now we need a "Trent" line to protect little princeass so he wont be total FAIL. I'm sorry the realities of the roster hurt your butt, really I am.
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Hammock Parties · 04-30-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Once again, I'm not saying that Alex Smith didn't throw the greatest number of short passes, but you are still using the wrong information to prove it.

There is a difference between volume, percentage, and average. They are not interchangeable statistics.

It is fact that he throws more short passes than almost anyone.

Get ****ed.

Rasputin · 04-30-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

**** Blackmon and B14ckmon.

**ChiefGator** · 04-30-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

We had a serviceable line that any competent QB could operate behind. Now we need a "Trent" line to protect little princeass so he wont be total FAIL. I'm sorry the realities of the roster hurt your butt, really I am.
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I don't think you understand what a 'team sport' is. So, any player we get for this team was brought in to cover up a deficiency in the QB?

The Steelers have been covering up their QB apparently for years.

I'm not butt hurt... I'm sorry we didn't draft a mediocre QB for you high in the draft.

ChiefRocka · 04-30-2013, 06:55 PM

Alex is an above average QB in this league, much like BA is an above average tackle. Last I checked we haven't signed either to long term holy shizerballs deals.

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04-30-2013, 05:57 PM	#61
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	dude he quotes PFF as gospel PFF had Alex Smith as their #8 overall QB 2 years ago and he was on pace to get back to his same PFF positive number last year... so either GoChiefs is a hypocrite or he doesn't have the slightest idea what he's talking about
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04-30-2013, 06:10 PM	#64
lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $1399928	Blackmon banned, just like his internet counterpart.
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04-30-2013, 06:13 PM	#65
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4426550	ON A SIDE NOTE Your sig is also misleading. It is implies (falsely) that all it takes to beat Alex Smith is to score 24 points, which is simply not true. Alex Smith's team might have lost 34-27, and guess what? He beat your arbitrary deadline of 24 points. Secondly, it implies that Alex Smith cannot win a game if he has to score more than 24 points. Again, a wild inaccuracy. Last season, 7 out of his 10 games, Alex Smith led the offense to at least 24 points. Yes, the two games they lost the opposing team scored 24 points, but that hardly is the definitive stat. There were plenty of weeks where his team could have beaten that point total. They didn't that week. It is literally arbitrary. Lastly, we have to go back three years to find any significant amount of games lost to teams who scored 24 points. To be more clear, in 2012 Alex Smith lost TWO GAMES to teams that scored 24 points. In 2011, he lost to ONE TEAM that scored 24 points. So yeah, three times in the past two years, Alex Smith lost when his opponent scored 24 points. My god! Whatever shall we do! How about this? Over the past two years, Alex Smith has won 10 games where the opponent didn't score 24 points... but his team scored at least 25. I get it, you hate the Alex Smith trade. I was disappointed, too. But you're cherry picking statistics and it just doesn't equal out to be the horrific situation that you proclaim.
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04-30-2013, 06:48 PM	#70
Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $2592400	How does Alex Smith being a shitty QB with no potential in this league have anyting to do with Justin Blackmon being suspended?
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04-30-2013, 06:55 PM	#75
ChiefRocka Veteran Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: DE Casino cash: $9775019	Alex is an above average QB in this league, much like BA is an above average tackle. Last I checked we haven't signed either to long term holy shizerballs deals.
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