Chiefs Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver? - Page 5

Codered · 03-19-2009, 08:58 AM

I'm a bit confused with some of these posts ... So Denver is going to trade their first rounder and Cutler to get Cassel now? O.o

KChiefs1 · 03-19-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggysocki

Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver?

Per yahoo sports:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/p...urn=nfl,149110

The Chiefs end up with Campbell?????

Pioli better make sure we get both Denver & Washington's first round picks then....

RedThat · 03-19-2009, 09:03 AM

This has to be pure speculation.

Why would we trade a quarterback we just acquired?

A guy whom Pioli has praised many times. And the funny part of this is, they have Cassel rumoured to go to Denver? Is this realistically possible to even think that we the Chiefs are gonna trade our quarterback we've acquired to our divisional rival? Oh yeah and Im sure Pioli is gonna want Jason Campbell as a result of all this...Just dumb.

CaliforniaChief · 03-19-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

This has to be pure speculation.

Why would we trade a quarterback we just acquired?

A guy whom Pioli has praised many times. And the funny part of this is, they have Cassel rumoured to go to Denver? Is this realistically possible to even think that we the Chiefs are gonna trade our quarterback we've acquired to our divisional rival? Oh yeah and Im sure Pioli is gonna want Jason Campbell as a result of all this...Just dumb.

I'm sure it is speculation but there are a few things that add credence to it. First, why would Pioli heap praise on a guy he was about to launch into a long-term contract discussion with? I would think going into negotiations you would want to downplay his abilities.

If we were able to land a load of draft picks to pick up a future QB and bring in Campbell for one year to bridge the gap/compete with Thigpen, I'm all for it. Someone else said it...it looks like pure rumor. BUT, there's no long-term contract, no jersey number, and a need to acquire more talent. A LOT of talent.

Coogs · 03-19-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I'm sure it is speculation but there are a few things that add credence to it. First, why would Pioli heap praise on a guy he was about to launch into a long-term contract discussion with? I would think going into negotiations you would want to downplay his abilities.

If we were able to land a load of draft picks to pick up a future QB and bring in Campbell for one year to bridge the gap/compete with Thigpen, I'm all for it. Someone else said it...it looks like pure rumor. BUT, there's no long-term contract, no jersey number, and a need to acquire more talent. A LOT of talent.

I'd rather have another draft pick than Campbell. Let Stafford or Sanchez compete with Thigpen.

RedThat · 03-19-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I'm sure it is speculation but there are a few things that add credence to it. First, why would Pioli heap praise on a guy he was about to launch into a long-term contract discussion with? I would think going into negotiations you would want to downplay his abilities.

If we were able to land a load of draft picks to pick up a future QB and bring in Campbell for one year to bridge the gap/compete with Thigpen, I'm all for it. Someone else said it...it looks like pure rumor. BUT, there's no long-term contract, no jersey number, and a need to acquire more talent. A LOT of talent.

First off, I think Pioli's plan is to sign low profile/key free agents who are going to serve this team as role players. Notice a lot of the players weve signed are nothing more then depth and special teams guys. Which is still ok.

He does believe building his team through the draft. I recall him saying that in his press conference when he got hired. And that's where imo you're going to see some moves. I wouldn't be surprised if he trades down, the Patriots traded down alot to get more picks. He doesn't trade down, unless he is somehow sold on Curry, or someother player at #3? I just think the draft is going to be used as a dependant source for the Chiefs in finding their starters there.

Anyways, I know Im rambling so please excuse me for it, by my point is, if he feels he's acquired his QB, and wants to get more draft picks then why trade your quarterback you've just acquired to get more draft picks? When you can just trade down anyway and possibly get yourself some multiple picks this year and possibly picks for next year too. I would think rebuilding this team is gonna be a long term solution anyway, and I think Cassel is going to be a part of it.

*I also think it doesn't make any sense to trade Cassel when it is clear he is a part of what you're trying to build, he is the guy that is familiar with the system Pioli wants to incorparate here. Remember Pioli said, "finding players that fit, know and understand schemes is just as important as talent level." You acquire Cassel for that purpose too. When you draft a rookie QB, or acquire a QB from another team who is not familiar with the system, it defeats his purpose on what he is trying to do.

Reerun_KC · 03-19-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

First off, I think Pioli's plan is to sign low profile/key free agents who are going to serve this team as role players. Notice a lot of the players weve signed are nothing more then depth and special teams guys. Which is still ok.

He does believe building his team through the draft. I recall him saying that in his press conference when he got hired. And that's where imo you're going to see some moves. I wouldn't be surprised if he trades down, the Patriots traded down alot to get more picks. He doesn't trade down, unless he is somehow sold on Curry, or someother player at #3? I just think the draft is going to be used as a dependant source for the Chiefs in finding their starters there.

Anyways, I know Im rambling so please excuse me for it, by my point is, if he feels he's acquired his QB, and wants to get more draft picks then why trade your quarterback you've just acquired to get more draft picks? When you can just trade down anyway and possibly get yourself some multiple picks this year and possibly picks for next year too. I would think rebuilding this team is gonna be a long term solution anyway, and I think Cassel is going to be a part of it.

*I also think it doesn't make any sense to trade Cassel when it is clear he is a part of what you're trying to build, he is the guy that is familiar with the system Pioli wants to incorparate here. Remember Pioli said, "finding players that fit, know and understand schemes is just as important as talent level." You acquire Cassel for that purpose too. When you draft a rookie QB, or acquire a QB from another team who is not familiar with the system, it defeats his purpose on what he is trying to do.

Well to add to your speculation, "What if" he feels that trading Cassel for multiple picks is what he thinks is the right thing to do? "What if" he wants to get a QBoTF/Franchise QB and knows that he can deal SM v2.0 for multiple picks to kick start his new franchise?

Taking a 7th round 1 year wonder nobody, trading a 2nd for him, then dealing him for 2 1st's? That is pure awesomeness if you ask me...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-19-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Reetard_KC

Well to add to your speculation, "What if" he feels that trading Cassel for multiple picks is what he thinks is the right thing to do? "What if" he wants to get a QBoTF/Franchise QB and knows that he can deal SM v2.0 for multiple picks to kick start his new franchise?

Taking a 7th round 1 year wonder nobody, trading a 2nd for him, then dealing him for 2 1st's? That is pure awesomeness if you ask me...

Yo' Ree; where dat' Contract be?!

DAY 19.

htismaqe · 03-19-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Reetard_KC

Taking a 7th round 1 year wonder nobody, trading a 2nd for him, then dealing him for 2 1st's? That is pure awesomeness if you ask me...

It's also pure fantasy if you ask me.

RedThat · 03-19-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Reetard_KC

Well to add to your speculation, "What if" he feels that trading Cassel for multiple picks is what he thinks is the right thing to do? "What if" he wants to get a QBoTF/Franchise QB and knows that he can deal SM v2.0 for multiple picks to kick start his new franchise?

Taking a 7th round 1 year wonder nobody, trading a 2nd for him, then dealing him for 2 1st's? That is pure awesomeness if you ask me...

You have to think real, and apply logic here. What makes the most sense?

Why would a team give up 2 1sts for Cassel? Knowing that the Chiefs only gave up a 2nd for him.

You really think thats gonna happen or are you just dreaming? It just doesn't make any sense. You've just acquired a QB whom you feel is going to be an intergral part of your future, whom your familiar with and knows what you're trying to do. It's all part of the plan with what Pioli is trying to do.

You've already got a kick start in Cassel, and like I said, you draft a rookie QB, or trade for one who is not familiar with the system the plan of "finding players who fit know and understand schemes is out the window." And now you have to start from chicken scratch all over again. why Pioli want to put himself and this organization in that position? It just doesn't make any sense?

I think really it's important that some of you really pay attention to his press conferences in what he says and how it relate to what he doing, because I get the impression that some of you are caught up in fantasy football trades on what you desire to see happen. Sometimes those type of things just don't work that way in the NFL.

Tipford · 03-19-2009, 09:05 AM

Instead of helping the

, I say help ourselves to another first rounder. I still like the idea of trying to trade Ken Dorsey to a team like Tennessee, straight across for their 1st rounder. This scenario makes alot more sense than this convoluted rumor I'm reading. If we are truly making the transition to the 3-4 defence, Dorsey in my opinion, becomes a player without a position. He is too light to play nose tackle, and the idea of making him a defensive end, well throw that idea out the window. He is a defensive tackle, ideal for the 4-3 defence, plain and simple. I say trade him to Tennessee for their 1st rounder to replace Haynesworth. Then turn that pick into Raji, the big defensive tackle from Boston College, if he's still on the boards. This makes a whole lot more sense to me.

**Scorp** · 03-19-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tipford

Instead of helping the

, I say help ourselves to another first rounder. I still like the idea of trying to trade Ken Dorsey to a team like Tennessee, straight across for their 1st rounder. .

Who the fuck is Ken Dorsey?

Coogs · 03-19-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorp

Who the fuck is Ken Dorsey?

He is a back up QB for the Browns. If we could somehow convince the Browns to send him to the Titans, and we wind up with the Titans 1st round pick, then I would probably pull the trigger on that deal.

htismaqe · 03-19-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorp

Who the fuck is Ken Dorsey?

The QB of the 2001 National Champion Miami Hurricanes!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-19-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Reetard_KC

Maybe they are seeing an opportunity to obtain another 1-2 first round picks?

They might pull off something crazy and we end up with Curry and MS or MS...

Hell who knows, but if they obtain Scott Mitchell v2.0 for a second and can turn him around for 2 firsts and another player. That would be pure genious if you ask me...

Oh how DCS is loving THIS thread! This thread is the Jolly Green Mother****ing Giant of potential Kool-Aid Brain Trust meltdown.

Yo' Ree, where dat' contract be?!

I would laugh. I would laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh until I required reconstructive surgery to wipe the ****ing smile off of my face.
Miles and miles, thread after endless thread of Kool Aid Brain Trust abuse, all the way to the Super Bowl.

Lord Pioli; make it happen!

03-19-2009, 08:58 AM	#1
Codered Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $8888190	I'm a bit confused with some of these posts ... So Denver is going to trade their first rounder and Cutler to get Cassel now? O.o
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03-19-2009, 09:05 AM	#11
Tipford Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	1st round draft picks Instead of helping the , I say help ourselves to another first rounder. I still like the idea of trying to trade Ken Dorsey to a team like Tennessee, straight across for their 1st rounder. This scenario makes alot more sense than this convoluted rumor I'm reading. If we are truly making the transition to the 3-4 defence, Dorsey in my opinion, becomes a player without a position. He is too light to play nose tackle, and the idea of making him a defensive end, well throw that idea out the window. He is a defensive tackle, ideal for the 4-3 defence, plain and simple. I say trade him to Tennessee for their 1st rounder to replace Haynesworth. Then turn that pick into Raji, the big defensive tackle from Boston College, if he's still on the boards. This makes a whole lot more sense to me.
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03-19-2009, 09:03 AM	#3
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	This has to be pure speculation. Why would we trade a quarterback we just acquired? A guy whom Pioli has praised many times. And the funny part of this is, they have Cassel rumoured to go to Denver? Is this realistically possible to even think that we the Chiefs are gonna trade our quarterback we've acquired to our divisional rival? Oh yeah and Im sure Pioli is gonna want Jason Campbell as a result of all this...Just dumb.
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