Chiefs Late night bullshit: doing the Geno thing again. - Page 5

Direckshun · 03-11-2013, 09:24 PM

So if the Chiefs pull off the following moves:

1. lock up a starting DE like Dorsey/DeVito/Jason Jones

2. re-sign Branden Albert

3. ink a starting corner like DRC

Then that means we'll have a hole at pretty much two positions:

backup, developmental QB behind Alex Smith

and

right tackle

(and sam-backer, I guess, but Reid's not going to draft an ILB #1 overall)

The decision boils down to the safest possible pick in Luke Joeckel and the big-ballsy risk of Geno Smith.

I absolutely cannot accept the idea that Geno Smith is out of consideration.

We've got two potential right tackles on our roster now.

This team is mostly built. There are no huge, glaring deficiencies other than Alex Smith.

The secondary will have seven players with significant starting experience (Berry, Robinson, Abdullah, Lewis, Flowers, DRC, Arenas).

The WR corps could be beefed up, but features two receivers Andy Reid loves in Bowe and McCluster.

A tough defensive line. A good pair of bookend passrushers.

The Chiefs have a very experienced starting QB for Geno to sit behind.

And that starting QB was himself a 1st overall pick, and could mentor Geno through the worst aspects of it.

Geno's skillset beautifully matches a west coast offense.

It just makes too much sense to say no to. Too much sense.

Here's what I'll say:

If my plan was to bring in Geno Smith with the #1 pick, knowing what I know about him, then this is how I prep my team for his arrival.

I sit him for the year, let Alex fight for his reputation, and keep Geno comfortable with the clipboard for as long as Alex isn't shitting his pants.

This is what you'd do, right? The Chiefs haven't made any buzz with backup QBs. They've not commented on Stanzi. They haven't talked to anybody other than the QBs in this draft.

They don't want to burn the 1st overall on a right tackle. Surely not.

**Mav** · 03-11-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

That's supposed to be a good class?

Manziel sucks.
Thomas is raw as **** and not accurate at all.
Murray and Boyd? Really?

I'd take Geno Smith and Matt Barkley over Murray and Boyd.

Remember, the NFL goes in cycles.

Thats why Boyd, and Logan Thomas are on that list.

YOu gonna tell me there isnt some coach out there that with THOMAS especially wont say, i can make him the next kaepernick?

And Boyd. He cant be the next russell wilson?

I dont say id agree with it. I like the hogan kid from stanford, and i think aaron murray is really underrated.

Direckshun · 03-11-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

2014.

We'll draft Clowney next season

**RealSNR** · 03-11-2013, 10:07 PM

Don't make me repeatedly rubber stamp this post on every ****ing thread like a 49er fan trying to tell us about Alex Smith.

Let's say there are some deficiencies to Geno's game that are currently preventing him from being an elite QB, much the way Colin Kaepernick had problems. I don't think there are nearly as many problems with Geno that some people think there are, but that's beside the point.

Does he have accuracy issues? No.
Does he have pocket awareness issues? No.
Does he have confidence issues? No.

Bam. That instantly spells out the foundation to a great starting QB in the NFL. Now imagine you can take that guy, sit him on the bench for 1 or 2 years, and let him ease into the NFL transition behind a stopgap veteran who's done this before, a pretty damn good supporting cast, and a well-known QB-friendly coaching staff.

IS THAT NOT THE BEST ****ING SITUATION THIS GUY COULD BE IN?

If you could draft a QB at 1.1 knowing that if you sat him for at least 24 games that he would turn into a top 10 QB in the NFL, would you take that over the doughy non-elite OT?

Of course you would. Who the **** wouldn't?

Geno + time on the bench = damn near ****ing close to a sure thing at the QB position that you can get, in my opinion. REGARDLESS of how much you spent on Alex Smith, you would have to be ****ing nuts to not see the potential in that investment

ESPECIALLY IN A DRAFT YEAR WHERE THE NON-QBS ALL SUCK BLACKBOB'S UNCLE'S DICK.

Use your ****ing heads for once you morons. Geno is potentially our ticket out of this hellhole of a nearly 20-year purgatory. As in... playoffs once every few years? How about playoffs EVERY GODDAMN YEAR? With wins as the EXPECTATION, not the cherry on top? How about challenging for the SUPER BOWL every so often?

**** my ****ing jeans.

**Mav** · 03-11-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

No mention of Teddy Bridgewater whatsoever? You're not doing much to improve your credibility in evaluating quarterbacks.

just a quick list off the top of my head. but yeah, he got omitted. thanks for the help. I have no cred in evaluating qbs. I thought aaron rodgers was going to be terrible, i thought the 49ers made the right choice with alex, wrong choice with kaep over mallett.

The only thing i have been right on, was that people made a mistake on not drafting russell wilson because of height. Im not an expert. Im just not impressed with this class. Hell, i happen to think that Mike Glennon is going to end up the best out of this class.

I really have no evaluation skills what so ever with qbs.....

Cannibal · 03-11-2013, 10:09 PM

I'll be glad when this draft is in the books so this Geno bullshit will cease. It's not going to ****ing happen. Perhaps it should, but it's not, time to get over it.

**Mav** · 03-11-2013, 10:09 PM

SNR. nice rant.

keg in kc · 03-11-2013, 10:10 PM

Mike Glennon? lol

Saccopoo · 03-11-2013, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

just a quick list off the top of my head. but yeah, he got omitted. thanks for the help. I have no cred in evaluating qbs. I thought aaron rodgers was going to be terrible, i thought the 49ers made the right choice with alex, wrong choice with kaep over mallett.

The only thing i have been right on, was that people made a mistake on not drafting russell wilson because of height. Im not an expert. Im just not impressed with this class. Hell, i happen to think that Mike Glennon is going to end up the best out of this class.

I really have no evaluation skills what so ever with qbs.....

Then shut the **** up.

Direckshun · 03-11-2013, 10:11 PM

Next year's class.

...

I just,

#

**The Franchise** · 03-11-2013, 10:11 PM

Best case scenario.

We draft Geno at 1.1.
Reid names Alex Smith his starting QB for 2013.
Barring a complete team meltdown or injury.....Alex Smith starts all 16 games in 2013.
2014....Alex Smith and Geno Smith battle for the starting QB job in TC.
Alex Smith gets a year as our backup QB and then gets to find a starting job at the age of 31.

**RealSNR** · 03-11-2013, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

I really have no evaluation skills what so ever with qbs.....

IT SHOWS

(God damn dude that was too ****ing easy. I almost feel bad taking candy from that reeruned baby with no arms)

**Mav** · 03-11-2013, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Then shut the **** up.

Why? My opinion on Geno Smith is much closer to people who know way more about football than you or I. SO maybe it is you who should stfu. At least i have the balls enough to say that I really dont know.

But, you can talk all your shit now. When he isnt drafted where you want him, and you start to understand that the experts were right, and you were wrong, then ill remind you of this convo.

**Mav** · 03-11-2013, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

IT SHOWS

(God damn dude that was too ****ing easy. I almost feel bad taking candy from that reeruned baby with no arms)

Yes, it sure does. As does yours. As in, you have no more than I do. You hate alex smith, i hate geno smith. we both dont know shit. so, have a coke and a smile.

Consistent1 · 03-11-2013, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier

He has the physical potential, attitude and work ethic to be an Aaron Rogers, which is more than you could say about any QB in recent Chiefs history. The only people who compare Geno to RGIII as an overall player are either lazy or are just stereotyping. He is a pass-first QB with good arm strength and accuracy who happens to also be a very strong athlete.

Geno "isn't an Andrew Luck", as so many people like to point out, but he is certainly in the same class as other QBs that have gone high in the first round in recent history. Alex Smith is NOT a franchise-caliber QB. Chiefs fans are tired of retreads and they're tired of settling.

We have the first overall pick for the first time ever, and for once we want to see our team roll the dice on a QB that has the potential to not only be one of the best in the game, but possibly lead us to a Super Bowl. You don't have to agree with drafting Geno at 1.1, but to not understand that sentiment means that you haven't loved the Chiefs for long, if ever.

Let me get this straight. Geno is as good as Aaron Rodgers, who happens to be worse than Luck?

Direckshun · 03-11-2013, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

Yes, it sure does. As does yours. As in, you have no more than I do. You hate alex smith, i hate geno smith. we both dont know shit. so, have a coke and a smile.

That makes no ****ing sense.

"Because neither of us are paid experts in the field, our opinions are equally valid/invalid."

03-11-2013, 09:24 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4133447	Late night bullshit: doing the Geno thing again. So if the Chiefs pull off the following moves: 1. lock up a starting DE like Dorsey/DeVito/Jason Jones 2. re-sign Branden Albert 3. ink a starting corner like DRC Then that means we'll have a hole at pretty much two positions: backup, developmental QB behind Alex Smith and right tackle (and sam-backer, I guess, but Reid's not going to draft an ILB #1 overall) The decision boils down to the safest possible pick in Luke Joeckel and the big-ballsy risk of Geno Smith. I absolutely cannot accept the idea that Geno Smith is out of consideration. We've got two potential right tackles on our roster now. This team is mostly built. There are no huge, glaring deficiencies other than Alex Smith. The secondary will have seven players with significant starting experience (Berry, Robinson, Abdullah, Lewis, Flowers, DRC, Arenas). The WR corps could be beefed up, but features two receivers Andy Reid loves in Bowe and McCluster. A tough defensive line. A good pair of bookend passrushers. The Chiefs have a very experienced starting QB for Geno to sit behind. And that starting QB was himself a 1st overall pick, and could mentor Geno through the worst aspects of it. Geno's skillset beautifully matches a west coast offense. It just makes too much sense to say no to. Too much sense. Here's what I'll say: If my plan was to bring in Geno Smith with the #1 pick, knowing what I know about him, then this is how I prep my team for his arrival. I sit him for the year, let Alex fight for his reputation, and keep Geno comfortable with the clipboard for as long as Alex isn't shitting his pants. This is what you'd do, right? The Chiefs haven't made any buzz with backup QBs. They've not commented on Stanzi. They haven't talked to anybody other than the QBs in this draft. They don't want to burn the 1st overall on a right tackle. Surely not.
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03-11-2013, 10:07 PM	#63
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $1870208	Don't make me repeatedly rubber stamp this post on every **ing thread like a 49er fan trying to tell us about Alex Smith. Let's say there are some deficiencies to Geno's game that are currently preventing him from being an elite QB, much the way Colin Kaepernick had problems. I don't think there are nearly as many problems with Geno that some people think there are, but that's beside the point. Does he have accuracy issues? No. Does he have pocket awareness issues? No. Does he have confidence issues? No. Bam. That instantly spells out the foundation to a great starting QB in the NFL. Now imagine you can take that guy, sit him on the bench for 1 or 2 years, and let him ease into the NFL transition behind a stopgap veteran who's done this before, a pretty damn good supporting cast, and a well-known QB-friendly coaching staff. IS THAT NOT THE BEST ING SITUATION THIS GUY COULD BE IN? If you could draft a QB at 1.1 knowing that if you sat him for at least 24 games that he would turn into a top 10 QB in the NFL, would you take that over the doughy non-elite OT? Of course you would. Who the wouldn't? Geno + time on the bench = damn near ing close to a sure thing at the QB position that you can get, in my opinion. REGARDLESS of how much you spent on Alex Smith, you would have to be ing nuts to not see the potential in that investment ESPECIALLY IN A DRAFT YEAR WHERE THE NON-QBS ALL SUCK BLACKBOB'S UNCLE'S DICK. Use your ing heads for once you morons. Geno is potentially our ticket out of this hellhole of a nearly 20-year purgatory. As in... playoffs once every few years? How about playoffs EVERY GODDAMN YEAR? With wins as the EXPECTATION, not the cherry on top? How about challenging for the SUPER BOWL every so often? my **ing jeans.
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03-11-2013, 10:09 PM	#65
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	I'll be glad when this draft is in the books so this Geno bullshit will cease. It's not going to ****ing happen. Perhaps it should, but it's not, time to get over it.
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03-11-2013, 10:09 PM	#66
Mav XBOX GT MAVS ACE Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wisconsin Casino cash: $10019303	SNR. nice rant. __________________ Resident Browns fan I’m not here to argue about Alex Smith. Fastest Ignore user on CP
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03-11-2013, 10:10 PM	#67
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03-11-2013, 10:11 PM	#69
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4133447	Next year's class. ... I just, #
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03-11-2013, 10:11 PM	#70
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2635047	Best case scenario. We draft Geno at 1.1. Reid names Alex Smith his starting QB for 2013. Barring a complete team meltdown or injury.....Alex Smith starts all 16 games in 2013. 2014....Alex Smith and Geno Smith battle for the starting QB job in TC. Alex Smith gets a year as our backup QB and then gets to find a starting job at the age of 31.
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