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Old 03-09-2005, 10:38 AM  
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Grading Carl Peterson's offseason moves....

[rant]I just got back from the road and finally have a few days off to get my Planet fix. However, I have been closely following the personnel moves (non moves) on Sirius NFL channel. I grade Peterson's performance as follows:

1) Not signing Samari Rolle. F-

We had him here and nobody in this world can tell me they believe the BS reason CP gave as to why they didn't sign him. "Narrowing of the Spine"? Just how friggin stupid does Peterson think we are? When I heard that, the Peterson Screwed-the-Pooch O Meter went off the fuggin scale.

2) Signing Kendrell Bell. C (at best).

We don't sign a perfectly healthy top notch corner who is rarely injured if at all; but instead sign a LB who is top notch WHEN HEALTHY. The same one who missed all but 3 games last year because HE WAS INJURED. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE the signing. It was the sheer illogic of it that makes me want to take a chain saw to Peterson's car. Not to mention, why sign a player that has a history of injury in all but his rookie year over one (Ed Hartwell) who is young and healthy to a long term deal?

3) Not signing Fred Smoot. F-

After NOT signing Rolle, he fuggs this up too. If we had gotten Bell and Smoot I would have been exstatic. But, we have Bell and nothing else at this point. Granted, the new rules make a shutdown corner an anachronism but we still play in a Division with the likes of Lelie, Moss, etc.... Can anyone confidently say that Crispy, Toasty or McNugget can cover Moss for even a few seconds? Corner is still a high priority. Nice job Carl.

Summary: Final grade thus far...D-

Our offense isn't getting any younger and we have 1 or maybe 2 runs at the big dance left before the offense has to be retooled. I had hoped CP and Co would go all out for a run NOW by getting as many (within financial boundaries) defensive upgrades as possible. I have been in CP's corner for many years now but this offseason is making me rethink that position. If the remaining offseason moves (FA and draft) don't give us a middle of the rod defense AT THE VERY LEAST, I am all for dragging our GM through the streets behind his own SUV by his entrails. Mr Peterson, if you want to mess up a team please go elsewhere and do so. [/rant]
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:35 PM   #61
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That might work except we are both engineers. I am an EE.

Then why are you not waiting for facts?

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:36 PM   #62
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Holmes was a UFA who was released by Baltimore and Green is about as much of a 'FA' as Surtain is.
I agree and I was changing my post when you posted this statement. Does not change the fact that Priest was signed before the draft and Trent was traded for on draft day. My premise is that it is rare for an impact free agent to be acquired after draft day.
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:37 PM   #63
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...You just compared Kendrell Bell to one of the greatest linebackers of all time, Derrick Thomas...

Although it will no doubt earn me a flurry of blows to the head, I have to disagree on Thomas. He was one of the best pass rushers, but hardly a great Linebacker. It was for exactly that reason that he did not make it into the Hall of Fame.

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:38 PM   #64
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I agree and I was changing my post when you posted this statement. Does not change the fact that Priest was signed before the draft and Trent was traded for on draft day. My premise is that it is rare for an impact free agent to be acquired after draft day.
Ok, fine...then Im going to say that there is still a chance of it happening. About as much chance as the 2nd rounder some dont want traded for Surtain becoming an impact player this season.
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:39 PM   #65
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Then why are you not waiting for facts?

Turn in your slide rule, man. You are busted.

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:41 PM   #66
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Feh...an impact free agent is a player who makes an impact on YOUR team. There's no need to parse it any further than that. Using your definition you could say that Hugh Douglas was an 'impact FA' for Jax or Trotter for the Skins who is still paying 5M in cap hit for him today...
That's your definition.

But when discussing impact FA, I think people are referring to potential, and no one realized that Priest had that kind of potential.
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:45 PM   #67
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Ok, fine...then Im going to say that there is still a chance of it happening. About as much chance as the 2nd rounder some dont want traded for Surtain becoming an impact player this season.
I certainly line up on the side wanting to trade a 2nd for Surtain. But it is more because, first he is younger, second clearly Law's health for the upcoming season is a big question, and finally I feel Law has only a couple of years left as a CB and I am concerned that such a serious foot bone break may have caused undetected ligament damage that will slow him down. I will stil gladly accept Law if that is what works out but I prefer Surtain.
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How can you judge “impact” before the fact?

Does that mean that Champ Bailey [heh] was an "impact" signing and Priest Holmes was not?

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I have been out of RF Systems Design for a couple of years working as a Program Manager for electronics products.

Well, THAT explains a lot, doesn’t it?

Actually, congratulations. I have been here for 24 years and they keep asking me when I am going into Management.

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:51 PM   #71
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How can you judge “impact” before the fact?

Does that mean that Champ Bailey [heh] was an "impact" signing and Priest Holmes was not?

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Based on past performance projected forward. This is a BB it is based on speculation. Of course you are technically correct but then we should just shut down the BB in the offseason because the place would not be the least bit interesting. I want only the facts I should go to CBSSportsline, ESPN.com, or NFL.com
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How can you judge “impact” before the fact?

Does that mean that Champ Bailey [heh] was an "impact" signing and Priest Holmes was not?

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So you're still holding out hope that Bartee will come around?
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I certainly line up on the side wanting to trade a 2nd for Surtain. But it is more because, first he is younger, second clearly Law's health for the upcoming season is a big question, and finally I feel Law has only a couple of years left as a CB and I am concerned that such a serious foot bone break may have caused undetected ligament damage that will slow him down. I will stil gladly accept Law if that is what works out but I prefer Surtain.
Trading our 2d for Surtain is a no brainer IMO. Compare: 3 time Pro Bowler vs a throw of the dice on a CB that likely needs at least 1 year to get acclimated to the NFL. Problem is likely to be if the monetary compensation that we offer to Surtain is satisfactory to Surtain and if he is within our means.
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How can you judge “impact” before the fact?

Does that mean that Champ Bailey [heh] was an "impact" signing and Priest Holmes was not?

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It's true, Gaz, that one can not actually judge impact until after the fact.

But the fact remains that if you looked at a list of FAs, then, before he was signed, Priest would not have been considered an "impact" signing, whereas, Chester McGlockton was.

It's based on potential, not fact.
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Old 03-09-2005, 01:04 PM   #75
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And you, HC Chief, don't spout the local anti-Carl crap.

"Spinal stenosis (narrowing of the spine)(Rolle's issue) usually starts gradually and develops over a long period of time. Narrowing of the spinal canal can squeeze and irritate the nerve roots that branch out from the spinal cord, or it can squeeze and irritate the spinal cord itself. This may cause pain, cramping, numbness, or weakness, most often in the legs, feet, and buttocks. Symptoms may be severe at times, and less severe at other times...

Spinal stenosis usually occurs in the lower (lumbar) back of the spine. When it does occur in the neck (cervical) region, it may cause pain, numbness, and/or weakness in the arms, hands, and/or legs.

Severe disability is not common. However, if symptoms become severe, they often do not improve without surgery. Severe symptoms may restrict your normal daily activities and affect your quality of life. If symptoms are still severe after a period of time of nonsurgical treatment, surgery may be considered. Surgery may not be an option for some older adults who have other serious health problems that make surgery too risky."
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Super duper... it's still a bullshit excuse for fuckface blowing the negotiations. Heh, then the prick had the audacity to blame the MEDIA for his bullshit excuse.

Baltimore's doctors found nothing wrong with him - certainly nothing that would suggest his congenital condition would threaten his ability to play football for oh, say, the next seven years. But hey, what do those Ravens know about defense anyway?
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