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Old 03-25-2005, 02:36 PM  
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Hartwell's first week with the Falcons

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The defending NFC South champions apparently got even more than they thought with the signing of unrestricted middle linebacker Ed Hartwell of the Baltimore Ravens. The Falcons personnel people knew Hartwell was a productive player and a high-character guy, but when he arrived at the team's complex on Wednesday, the first thing he did was ask for a defensive playbook, and the second thing was to hole himself up in the film room for several hours, reviewing video of his new teammates. "He already convened a meeting of the linebackers to figure out a schedule for when they would all come in and lift weights together," vice president of football operations Ron Hill said. "You can't help but love the guy."



Too bad we missed out on this guy. Sounds like a real leader.
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Old 03-27-2005, 07:11 AM   #61
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What's the number's on Hartwells contract again? I thought we offered Hartwell and Bell the same basic contract and it wasn't enough for him so he went looking for more money in AZ(yeah I know where he signed.) of all places while Bell signed on as a Chief. I think we got the right guy for us.

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The injury thing worries me.

I would have much preferred Hartwell.
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Old 03-27-2005, 07:19 AM   #62
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The injury thing worries me.

I would have much preferred Hartwell.
At what price? Since Bells worst injury happened off the football field I'm not worried about it at all. I'll bet he learned his lesson and I also bet that our trainers will keep a close eye on him so he don't do the same thing over again. IMO we got the player with the most upside and potential. What did Hartwell sign for again?

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Old 03-27-2005, 07:51 AM   #63
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At what price? Since Bells worst injury happened off the football field I'm not worried about it at all. I'll bet he learned his lesson and I also bet that our trainers will keep a close eye on him so he don't do the same thing over again. IMO we got the player with the most upside and potential. What did Hartwell sign for again?

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I don't really care about the price. Hartwell's deal wasn't outrageous by any means. It just looks big because of the deal we gave Bell. I just hope that Bell can stay on the field.
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:02 AM   #64
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fuck Ed Hartwell. He's spilt milk.

I really look forward to listening to the flapping labias for the next four years, everytime Hartwell wipes his ass front-to-back.
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:44 AM   #65
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You know what man. I tried to make a joke of this, but fuck you.
Jesus.
I expressed the opinion that Hartwell has leadership qualities that we'd like and need. And you went science nerd, and tried to turn an opinion into a fucking theorem with charts and graphs and soil samples.
But it doesn't matter. Time will prove my opinion correct, and you'll still be nursing your wrongheaded impression of a distinction that I hadn't metaphysically PROVED my OPINION of Hartwell's leadership qualities back when we had a chance to sign him.
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:47 AM   #66
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:49 AM   #67
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fuck Ed Hartwell. He's spilt milk.

I really look forward to listening to the flapping labias for the next four years, everytime Hartwell wipes his ass front-to-back.
Hell yeah!!! I hope the Chiefs suck like never before, so I can take supreme comfort in my superhuman innoculation against the realization that the Chiefs D is a joke and CP is too cheap to do what needs to be done.
I'm a GREAT fan, because I'm STILL grinning when the Chiefs look like shit. Nothing could sway me from that goofy-assed grin.
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:50 AM   #68
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Where's your PROOF??

You can't say that without proof.



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Old 03-28-2005, 06:52 AM   #69
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Where's your PROOF??

You can't say that without proof.
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Hell yeah!!! I hope the Chiefs suck like never before, so I can take supreme comfort in my superhuman innoculation against the realization that the Chiefs D is a joke and CP is too cheap to do what needs to be done.
I'm a GREAT fan, because I'm STILL grinning when the Chiefs look like shit. Nothing could sway me from that goofy-assed grin.
Jeesuz, take a fucking midol.

I'm just saying that he's not a Chief, so there's little use in us lamenting over not getting him for the next ten years. We made an offer, he kept looking. We haven't even seen him or Bell play for their new teams yet and we're already claiming that we got the short end of the stick.

I realize it's part of the culture of being a Chiefs fan to constantly bitch about who we missed out on, but for fuck's sake, we gota MLB that has the talent to be twice the player Hartwell is. before we declare him a bust, I'd at least like to see him on the field for us.

Don't take your PMSing lesbian lover's quarrel with Rufusmaq out on me.
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Jeesuz, take a fucking midol.

I'm just saying that he's not a Chief, so there's little use in us lamenting over not getting him for the next ten years. We made an offer, he kept looking. We haven't even seen him or Bell play for their new teams yet and we're already claiming that we got the short end of the stick.

I realize it's part of the culture of being a Chiefs fan to constantly bitch about who we missed out on, but for fuck's sake, we gota MLB that has the talent to be twice the player Hartwell is. before we declare him a bust, I'd at least like to see him on the field for us.

Don't take your PMSing lesbian lover's quarrel with Rufusmaq out on me.
BUt the thing is, you have one contingent who says "people can't complain about personnel decisions until after all the signing is done." Then you have another contingent who says "after all the signing is done, I don't want to hear any bitching about personnel decisions."
Mighty small window for those who are pissed off about personnel decisions. Ironically small, considering how personnel decisions have fucked into a defense wasteland.
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Old 03-28-2005, 07:56 AM   #72
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Don't forget the contingent who says "don't bitch until the games are played and you see how people play".

This is a complicated fucking game. It makes my fucking head hurt.
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BUt the thing is, you have one contingent who says "people can't complain about personnel decisions until after all the signing is done." Then you have another contingent who says "after all the signing is done, I don't want to hear any bitching about personnel decisions."
Mighty small window for those who are pissed off about personnel decisions. Ironically small, considering how personnel decisions have fucked into a defense wasteland.
Why are you pissed? Bell > Hartwell, plus a much nicer/safer contract. Sammy > Wesley/Woods. Hartwell = indicisive, cheap ass bitch. No Hartwell = enough money to sign Law/Surtain. I don't see what there is to bitch to about. Now, if we don't sign Law/Surtain, I'll be joining you company.
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Don't forget the contingent who says "don't bitch until the games are played and you see how people play".

This is a complicated fucking game. It makes my fucking head hurt.
And after the games are played, it's "kwitcherbitchen. We're lookin' to next season."
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Why are you pissed? Bell > Hartwell, plus a much nicer/safer contract. Sammy > Wesley/Woods. Hartwell = indicisive, cheap ass bitch. No Hartwell = enough money to sign Law/Surtain. I don't see what there is to bitch to about. Now, if we don't sign Law/Surtain, I'll be joining you company.
Because Hartwell/Rolle is 10x> than Bell/Law/Surtain AND Knight.
Our present BEST CASE scenario is inferior to our original, and now utterly failed, game plan.
And before you start in on the post hoc denigration of Hartwell and Rolle, remember those two were the ones the Chiefs organization indentified as the cream of the crop before they crapped their pants wooing them.
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