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09-20-2000, 02:14 PM | #61 |
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The thing is, as I understand it, the meat of the statement was correct. Thus, they had a researcher digging through the business of Gore family members, in a desperate hope that they could find something to hang Gore with, even if that something had absolutely nothing to do with the issue. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Pretty desperate, too.<P> |
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09-20-2000, 02:18 PM | #62 |
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I will try and look up a link, but DOZENS of members of the Reagan administration were either investigated or convicted during his 8 years.
CK, If you can't defend Bush, just admit it. Stop acting like you won't because you don't like the way I reply. |
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09-20-2000, 02:29 PM | #63 |
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Im sorry you understood it that way, because it for all intents and purposes was blatantly false. The campaign even admitted that it was a made up story.
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09-20-2000, 02:31 PM | #64 |
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I look forward to seeing this list Clint. Yes some members were tried and even a few were convicted. But NONE of the convictions stood under apeal. The same CAN NOT be said of this administration.
As for defending Bush, 1. I don't feel the need, 2. Your accusations are absurd, without merit or fact and don't merit a defense on behalf of Bush. BTW: If you're not a Gore person who is your guy? |
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09-20-2000, 02:34 PM | #65 |
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"My guy" will be the first candidate that comes along that is AT LEAST worth the gas it will take to drive to the polls.
I may be waiting a LOOONG time. |
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09-20-2000, 02:36 PM | #66 |
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Dozens, to me would be a minimum of 24. In the Iran/Contra scandal there were 14. 11 convictions, 2 overturned, 1 dismissed because documents were not declassified.
There were two pardons before trial began. The vast majority of the convictions were for 'withholding information from Congress' - hmmm...sounds familiar. In Whitewater, there were 13 convictions.<BR> |
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09-20-2000, 02:36 PM | #67 |
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Actually, I followed the link on this board, where it basically said that the fact is fact: It costs twice as much to get the same medicine for humans as for dogs. The Bush campaign hasn't refuted this statement. They've refuted the analogy, not the facts. Again, pretty desperate, pretty pathetic, pretty typical.
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09-20-2000, 02:37 PM | #68 |
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Here's a link for the Iran/Contra summary:
[url="http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/icsummary.html"]http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/icsummary.html[/url] It lists those convicted as well as the summary of the investigation. |
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09-20-2000, 02:39 PM | #69 |
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Drew, there was almost nothing factual about dog-gate.
1. Of course human meds cost more than animal meds. The FDA has a wringer of safety test that human meds go through. This increases their costs. 2. Gore used the name brand version. The generic version is used by almost everyone and costs a 1/4th as much. 3. Dosages (and cost) of an animal med would be totally different than a human dose. This was an attempt to push his drug plan through the blatent use of a lie. A method Willy has perfected. |
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09-20-2000, 02:41 PM | #70 |
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All that anybody had to do to see "RATS" flash across the screen is to watch the campaign add. If watching a television add is "digging for mud", then we are all guilty.
I did like the Bush camp explaination, though. It was a "software glitch" in a zillion dollar campaign add. A software glitch that decided to enlarge the font in the word "RATS" and set the black lettering against a white background (happens all the time). Gee, you'd think that whoever paid the advertising company all those dollars would have watched the add before they put it on TV. I guess that is the caliber of advisors (cabinet members) we can expect from a Bush presidency. Sure hope he reads more books and learns to "do calculus" so he can check their work efficiently. ------------------ Lick Bush in 2000 !!! |
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Clint,
First, people who get straight A's are often unable to cope with the real world as they lack common sense. I have known many of this type. Second, power and influence will only get you so far. I do not like Gore's tree hugging, America last philosophy, but I am smart enough to know that he has enough on the ball to be really dangerous. He like Bush is intelligent, they are not the most charasimatic politicians, but they did not get where they are solely on their fathers and relatives coat-tails. I read Bush's comment as a folksy attempt at saying I am not going to tell you how smart I am, that many Americans do well while through good common sense. If you feel the need to denigrate him in a falsehood (i.e. there is no way to interpret that statement as Bush claiming he is illiterate) based on you misinterpretation of the meaning of illiterate it does nothing but make you look foolish. The left and especially the Democratic left has commonly used such tactics since the HHH days, if you wish to join them then that shows you are willing to throw off your own intellect in favor of the lefts favorite tactic -The Big Lie-. Unfortunately for the U.S. many of the masses fall for this sad tactic. ------------------ Jim Reynolds Please no squiggles in my discussion zone! [This message has been edited by Logical (edited 09-20-2000).] |
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09-20-2000, 02:51 PM | #72 |
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My point is that the Bush campaign/GOP was using resources to research an analogy. They were mining for mud. If the statement was so clearly false, then why didn't they attack it like you just did? I think it is because they no longer believe they can beat Gore on the issues. They gotta beat him by destroying his character. I don't like that sort of politics, no matter who's playing it. <P> |
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09-20-2000, 02:51 PM | #73 |
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For those of you who don't vote, I applaud you... Your reasoning is extremely rhetorical and lacking in original thought... So please do the rest of us who think for ourselves a favor (liberal or conservative or libertarian) and don't vote on election day!!!!!
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09-20-2000, 02:53 PM | #74 |
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And speaking of common sense, wouldn't one expect the word rats to show up in [b]a single frame[/b] of an ad that featured the word bearucrats? Methinks the Gore camp doth protest too much.
Speaking of common sense wouldn't one also expect that dog meds cost different than human meds. I would certainly HOPE so! |
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Drew - Reporters did the research on my post #41, even they are starting to look up this guys wild accusations quickly.
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