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09-24-2000, 05:29 PM

What was that about 4th qtr comebacks?

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Puttin' on my game face!

redbrian · 09-26-2000, 10:59 AM

If we're going to look that far into the future, how about Chris Simms, or even Ell Roberson at KSU?

redshirt32 · 09-26-2000, 10:59 AM

Clint:

"BTW, Vick's supporting cast this year is HORRIBLE compared to last year. IMO he is the only reason they are ranked right now."

On that we agree. I say when they play a real team they will lose a couple of games and fall out of the polls.

mmaddog
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htismaqe · 09-26-2000, 11:00 AM

Cannibal,

Why are you saying that Elvis is a very inaccurate passer?

That statement is just plain inaccurate.

Luz
shaking his head..,.

Fort Chief · 09-26-2000, 11:04 AM

Because he always in every game has bad throws in which he misses his target badly. He missed Morris badly against Denver numerous times. His long ball IS inaccurate. He rarely ever hits a receiver IN STRIDE on a bomb. The ball is usually overthrown or the receiver is forced to slow down and wait for the ball which is underthrown, thus allowing the DB to catch up and make the tackle. If you want to see a QB who is accurate... watch Kurt Warner.

Raiderhater · 09-26-2000, 11:38 AM

Elvis is no Kurt Warner as Elvis is no Drew Bledsoe as Elvis is no Jake Plummer. What Elvis is, is Elvis. He did what we needed to do to win the DAMN game and yall are still bitching about the overthrown or 'badly' thrown passes.<P>

redbrian · 09-26-2000, 11:41 AM

EG is a much more capable QB than when he arrived in KC, but there is always room for improvement. Since KC won the game Sunday, the ENTIRE team played well enough to win...but I doubt that any of us believe that the running game is A-OK.

Raiderhater · 09-26-2000, 11:46 AM

The entire team did not play well. The running game was pathetic, as you said and the Special teams were less than stellar.

Our defense and Elvis won that game for us.

It's obvious to me that right now most teams are going to stack the line and force Elvis to beat them in the air. We're 2 for 2 when we dont blindly bang our heads into the wall.

redbrian · 09-26-2000, 11:52 AM

IMO it's time to think pass first, since the WR corps & TE is where the bulk of the offensive talent lies...not to mention the fact that the OL apparently can only pass-protect now.

Use the pass to set up the run. IMO that's why TR was FINALLY able to rip off 2 good runs in the 4th quarter.

WarPaint · 09-26-2000, 12:01 PM

Last year when we had to throw the ball 30+ times we were 1-7. This year we are 2-1, with the one loss being to Indy where we dropped 8 passes. IMO, our entire passing game is improving dramatically - Elvis, the receivers and the play calling.

In the past, Elvis would not have been able to shake off the INT's. He should be given credit for the fact that he can put bad plays behind him. Even though we had no running game, he was near perfect in crunch time. You can't ask a QB to do much more than that.

As for the INT's, the more you throw the more picks there are going to be. It is a fact of life. It is the ability to forget the picks and get back in the game that can separate the very good QB's from the average ones. Elvis is making giant strides in the right direction.

09-26-2000, 10:59 AM	#61
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	If we're going to look that far into the future, how about Chris Simms, or even Ell Roberson at KSU?
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09-26-2000, 10:59 AM	#62
redshirt32 Fire Controlman Vet Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: By the Sea Casino cash: $5724936	Clint: "BTW, Vick's supporting cast this year is HORRIBLE compared to last year. IMO he is the only reason they are ranked right now." On that we agree. I say when they play a real team they will lose a couple of games and fall out of the polls. mmaddog ************ ------------------ "When you're not the lead dog in the pack, the view is always the same"
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09-26-2000, 11:00 AM	#63
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Cannibal, Why are you saying that Elvis is a very inaccurate passer? That statement is just plain inaccurate. Luz shaking his head..,.
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09-26-2000, 11:04 AM	#64
Fort Chief Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Because he always in every game has bad throws in which he misses his target badly. He missed Morris badly against Denver numerous times. His long ball IS inaccurate. He rarely ever hits a receiver IN STRIDE on a bomb. The ball is usually overthrown or the receiver is forced to slow down and wait for the ball which is underthrown, thus allowing the DB to catch up and make the tackle. If you want to see a QB who is accurate... watch Kurt Warner.
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09-26-2000, 11:38 AM	#65
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $1662021	Elvis is no Kurt Warner as Elvis is no Drew Bledsoe as Elvis is no Jake Plummer. What Elvis is, is Elvis. He did what we needed to do to win the DAMN game and yall are still bitching about the overthrown or 'badly' thrown passes.<P>
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09-24-2000, 05:29 PM
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09-26-2000, 11:41 AM	#66
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	EG is a much more capable QB than when he arrived in KC, but there is always room for improvement. Since KC won the game Sunday, the ENTIRE team played well enough to win...but I doubt that any of us believe that the running game is A-OK.
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09-26-2000, 11:46 AM	#67
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $1662021	The entire team did not play well. The running game was pathetic, as you said and the Special teams were less than stellar. Our defense and Elvis won that game for us. It's obvious to me that right now most teams are going to stack the line and force Elvis to beat them in the air. We're 2 for 2 when we dont blindly bang our heads into the wall.
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09-26-2000, 11:52 AM	#68
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	IMO it's time to think pass first, since the WR corps & TE is where the bulk of the offensive talent lies...not to mention the fact that the OL apparently can only pass-protect now. Use the pass to set up the run. IMO that's why TR was FINALLY able to rip off 2 good runs in the 4th quarter.
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09-26-2000, 12:01 PM	#69
WarPaint Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	Last year when we had to throw the ball 30+ times we were 1-7. This year we are 2-1, with the one loss being to Indy where we dropped 8 passes. IMO, our entire passing game is improving dramatically - Elvis, the receivers and the play calling. In the past, Elvis would not have been able to shake off the INT's. He should be given credit for the fact that he can put bad plays behind him. Even though we had no running game, he was near perfect in crunch time. You can't ask a QB to do much more than that. As for the INT's, the more you throw the more picks there are going to be. It is a fact of life. It is the ability to forget the picks and get back in the game that can separate the very good QB's from the average ones. Elvis is making giant strides in the right direction.
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