Green or no Green, the Chiefs just suck!!! - Page 5

tfree32 · 09-10-2006, 06:02 PM

Too bad about Green, here's hoping he makes a full recovery.

That being said, the Chiefs just plain suck. Is there a player on offense besides Johnson who's under 40? The line is old and weak, the QB is a limp-wristed statute, the receivers have sucked for years, Gonzalez is past his prime, and it's looking like it's time to rebuild the offense around LJ.

The defense has sucked for years, and Law and Bell aren't going to solve the problem.

I think it's time for the Chiefs to rebuild around LJ and a defense that has some young talent. Time to stop spending money bringing in older players past their prime. Time to stop pretending they're a serious contender, and face the fact that it's time to build for the future.

splatbass · 09-10-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by raiderhader

Fine, you don't have to lose to rebuild. That is where I part ways with the "lose for higher draft picks" crowd, especially after the first fucking game of the fucking season.

fuck.

Exactly. You ALWAYS play to win, or you have no business in the NFL.

Mecca · 09-10-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by raiderhader

Fine, you don't have to lose to rebuild. That is where I part ways with the "lose for higher draft picks" crowd, especially after the first fucking game of the fucking season.

fuck.

And hey that's great if your young players are that good and you don't totally suck that's a bonus. It's just that generally when you go young it involves a 5-11 season....

Mecca · 09-10-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Getting Chad Johnson, TJ Houshmanzadeh, Rudi Johnson, and Odell "Winstrol" Thurman in rounds 2, 7, 4, and 2 didn't hurt either. No one cares if you thought John Henderson was the better player, the only part that matters is that Vermeil made a decision based upon the input of a fucking moron who he only believed b/c he was close to him. Granted, people were still all over Sims' dick before the draft, so it's hard to single us out. The guy is a bust, just like Charles Rogers, who was lauded as a good pick 3 three years ago.

That Chad Johnson pick was frankly a great pick......I liked him out of Oregon state and was upset when we took Sylvester Morris over him. Housh is frankly better than I think anyone ever thought he'd be he was pretty much "that guy that played with Chad Johnson at Oregon State". I think everyone knew Thurman was talented but he has some issues so of course teams passed the same way Chris Henry was a first round talent taken in the 3rd round. I also remember being surprised that Rudi Johnson was a 4th rounder after how productive he was at Auburn.

splatbass · 09-10-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Arizona is also a team on the rise........Detroit has drafted like complete morons so that's their own fault.

The Cards have been drafting early since they were in St. Louis. Do you really want to wait 30 years?

ChiefsCountry · 09-10-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mdstu

Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys did smething amazing by raping everyone in the draft and creating a dynasty in Dallas.

But because of him it is impossible to get more than a draft pick is worth. Rebuilding is a risk just like drafting in the top ten is no sure thing. I'll take what we have in a heartbeat.

No Dallas did by raping Minnesota for all the picks that came from Herschal Walker, no team is that dumb anymore besides New Orleans in '98.

Mecca · 09-10-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

The Cards have been drafting early since they were in St. Louis. Do you really want to wait 30 years?

That comes from being inept as an organization like the Bengals were...once each team finally hired a real coach things have turned around for both of them.

Sure-Oz · 09-10-2006, 09:50 PM

1 ****in game, good lord there are alot of douch bags out after a week 1 loss!

milkman · 09-10-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That comes from being inept as an organization like the Bengals were...once each team finally hired a real coach things have turned around for both of them.

So....uh......when do you expect this organization to hire a real coach?

Mecca · 09-10-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So....uh......when do you expect this organization to hire a real coach?

That's a good question...

HerculesRockefell · 09-10-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

Those #1 picks are way too expensive. They instantly become one of the highest paid players on your team, and they may not ever even play a game in the NFL.

No they're not. There's so many incentives built into those deals that if the player actually hits them all and hits the max value, you've got a franchise player to build a team around and no one is complaining.

That's like saying Cutler really did get $48M over 6 years, when in reality the true value is about half of that. If Cutler really did max out his contract, there'd be a mass suicide on this site because it would have meant he led the Broncos to more than a couple Super Bowl wins over the next 6 seasons.

Mecca · 09-10-2006, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HerculesRockefell

No they're not. There's so many incentives built into those deals that if the player actually hits them all and hits the max value, you've got a franchise player to build a team around and no one is complaining.

That's like saying Cutler really did get $48M over 6 years, when in reality the true value is about half of that. If Cutler really did max out his contract, there'd be a mass suicide on this site because it would have meant he led the Broncos more than a couple Super Bowl wins over the next 6 seasons.

Only on Chiefsplanet will you find someone who doesn't want an elite player in the draft because "he costs to much".........like you're paying him out of your pocket or some shit.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-10-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

1 ****in game, good lord there are alot of douch bags out after a week 1 loss!

It's understandable when the fuckING leader of the team was knocked out of the game, and the unknown period that Green will be out

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-10-2006, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Do I need to remind everybody Tfree is a Buccaneers fan? Maybe we should discuss their limp-wristed QB.

Anyone catch the size of the herpes sore on his mouth today? Daaaaaaaaamn!!!!!

Abba-Dabba · 09-11-2006, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I'd be fine with a "clean slate" approach if I had more faith in our ability to evaluate talent.

As it stands, I think we need the proven players we've been able to pick up.

My fear would be that we would start over, expecting to compete again in a few years... only to see that "few years" turn into 15.

You're alittle late. They are in year 18.

Abba-Dabba · 09-11-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mdstu

Ki-Jana Carter
Akili Smith

Marshall Faulk
Peyton Manning

We could keep this going for days...

09-10-2006, 06:02 PM
tfree32 Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Casino cash: $10004900	Green or no Green, the Chiefs just suck!!! Too bad about Green, here's hoping he makes a full recovery. That being said, the Chiefs just plain suck. Is there a player on offense besides Johnson who's under 40? The line is old and weak, the QB is a limp-wristed statute, the receivers have sucked for years, Gonzalez is past his prime, and it's looking like it's time to rebuild the offense around LJ. The defense has sucked for years, and Law and Bell aren't going to solve the problem. I think it's time for the Chiefs to rebuild around LJ and a defense that has some young talent. Time to stop spending money bringing in older players past their prime. Time to stop pretending they're a serious contender, and face the fact that it's time to build for the future.
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