LET THE CONTROVERSY BEGIN - Page 5

Zman · 11-07-2006, 02:33 PM

This just hit the Kansas City Star

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/15951883.htm

**Bwana** · 11-07-2006, 03:36 PM

This isn't a huge surprise. I'm fine with Huard as long as he keeps winning.

stevieray · 11-07-2006, 03:37 PM

If anything this puts unneeded pressure on Huard.

So far, he's a team player, even though the media wants to make the ultimate team sport a game about individuals.

FloridaMan88 · 11-07-2006, 03:38 PM

Why do people gloss over the fact Damon Huard was a major factor behind the Chiefs loss in Denver in week 2. His lost fumble late in the game, with the Chiefs driving paved the way for Denver to come back and win.

Also consider Huard's dangerous habit of fumbling the ball when faced with the slightest HINT of pressure in the pocket (he has 4 fumbles this season).

htismaqe · 11-07-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

Seriously, I have trouble with all you guys who think we owe anybody for what they did in the past. They got paid, and are getting paid. They are suppose to be professionals. I don't give a dang about Trents ego.

You go with the hot hand until it cools. If it doesn't, we win the Super Bowl. What is wrong with that?

Hot hands tend to cool at exactly the wrong time.

You put your best players on the field, period.

stevieray · 11-07-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Also consider Huard's dangerous habit of fumbling the ball when faced with the slightest HINT of pressure in the pocket (he has 4 fumbles this season).

Wrong. Huard has no problem standing in the pocket and taking the hit.

FloridaMan88 · 11-07-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

This isn't a huge surprise. I'm fine with Huard as long as he keeps winning.

Huard isn't winning... the Chiefs are winning because Huard hasn't done anything to lose these games for the Chiefs... there is a difference

Hammock Parties · 11-07-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Huard isn't winning...

Watch the Arizona, Seattle and San Diego games and get back to me. Huard made HUGE PLAYS down the stretch in each of them.

On the drive that put the game away in St. Louis, he had a big third-down conversion and threw that TD pass, too.

FloridaMan88 · 11-07-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Wrong. Huard has no problem standing in the pocket and taking the hit.

Explain the 4 fumbles then.

InChiefsHeaven · 11-07-2006, 03:41 PM

The other thing is, we know that DAmon has done a great job in an offense that is pretty managable. They have said that they are holding back from the playbook, even now. As the season wears on, being able to switch up to Trent would be like opening a whole new look to the offense.

Plus Trent is outright prettier than Huard. So there is that.

htismaqe · 11-07-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Huard isn't winning... the Chiefs are winning because Huard hasn't done anything to lose these games for the Chiefs... there is a difference

EGG-zackly...

How has Huard performed when BEHIND in the 2nd half?

Look at the "Behind by 1-8 points" - that's the area where a QB can single-handedly win a game...

Damn BB can't format it correctly.

InChiefsHeaven · 11-07-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

EGG-zackly...

How has Huard performed when BEHIND in the 2nd half?

Look at the "Behind by 1-8 points" - that's the area where a QB can single-handedly win a game...

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CAT G Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int 1st 1st % 20+ Sac Rate 
AHEAD BY 1-TO-8 POINTS 0 37 25 67.6 363 9.81 43 3 0 20 80.0 6 3 126.3 
AHEAD BY 9-TO-16 POINTS 0 21 13 61.9 170 8.10 57 1 0 8 61.5 2 2 103.3 
AHEAD 0 67 44 65.7 623 9.30 57 5 0 34 77.3 9 5 120.4 
BEHIND BY 9-TO-16 POINTS 0 25 17 68.0 217 8.68 51 1 0 13 76.5 1 2 108.3 
BEHIND BY 1-TO-8 POINTS 0 37 24 64.9 220 5.95 25 2 0 14 58.3 2 4 98.9 
BEHIND 0 98 61 62.2 664 6.78 51 4 1 39 63.9 8 7 91.5

I can't really read all of that, but I'm assuming it makes your case...

**Dartgod** · 11-07-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

The other thing is, we know that DAmon has done a great job in an offense that is pretty managable. They have said that they are holding back from the playbook, even now. As the season wears on, being able to switch up to Trent would be like opening a whole new look to the offense.

Exactly. And Herm addressed that today too.

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Q: The fact that Mike Solari has evolved into a very effective offensive coordinator and play caller and has done that with Damon, and that he and Trent have hardly worked at all together in that capacity, does that become a factor that you will weigh?

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EDWARDS: “No, because Trent is a smart enough guy to know that this is the way we’re going to do it. We’re going to play our offense a certain way at this point in time because it’s been successful. I don’t think you get away from those things. We’re not going to get away from giving the ball to Larry Johnson and we’re not going to get away from throwing the ball to Tony Gonzalez and, when we get an opportunity to take the ball down the field we’re going to take it down the field. That’s not going to change for us. “There might be certain things that we know Trent can do a little bit better than Damon. Are there some things we’ve cut out of the offense that Trent can do better than Damon? Absolutely. That’s what you’re supposed to do because you’re supposed to make the players successful. It’s not about your system it’s about the players. What can the player do well and Mike and Terry Shea have done a great job of organizing their thoughts – along with Damon – on what exactly he can do well. Trent can do some things a little different too. He’s got some stronger attributes doing certain things in this offense.”

**BigRedChief** · 11-07-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Thanks Dartgod.

Gotta love the media...anything for a story.

Okay he has been saying at every oppertunity that when Trent comes back he's the starter. Thats it. The only answer he gives. Doesn't know when he's coming back but when Trent's healthy he is the starter.
Period....Then he says today when asked is Trent still the guy....

Q: So is Trent still the guy when he comes back?
EDWARDS: “At this point, I don’t have to make that decision. But I’ll make the decision. It’ll be a decision I’ll make.”
Q: So you’re kind of waffling then?
EDWARDS: “No, I’m not waffling. What I don’t want to do is this: I don’t want to talk about a decision I don’t have to make at this point and time because that’s not important. Trent’s not playing this week. Damon Huard is the starting quarterback. What I don’t want to get caught in – and it happens every week when I come in here – is every week we win a game and Trent’s out they’re going to keep asking the question. Well, it’s not about Trent right now. It’s about the football team. It’s all it matters.”

Thats not the medias fault. Thats a different answer than the one he has been giving for the last 4 weeks.

King_Chief_Fan · 11-07-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Why do people gloss over the fact Damon Huard was a major factor behind the Chiefs loss in Denver in week 2. His lost fumble late in the game, with the Chiefs driving paved the way for Denver to come back and win.

Also consider Huard's dangerous habit of fumbling the ball when faced with the slightest HINT of pressure in the pocket (he has 4 fumbles this season).

And a guy who had the cream cheese knocked out of him that put him on the shelf for 8 weeks and counting is just going to come into the game fresh as a daisy with no concern of the pressure he might be receiving and not fumble or throw interceptions?

htismaqe · 11-07-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Okay he has been saying at every oppertunity that when Trent comes back he's the starter. Thats it. The only answer he gives. Doesn't know when he's coming back but when Trent's healthy he is the starter.
Period....Then he says today when asked is Trent still the guy....

Q: So is Trent still the guy when he comes back?
EDWARDS: “At this point, I don’t have to make that decision. But I’ll make the decision. It’ll be a decision I’ll make.”
Q: So you’re kind of waffling then?
EDWARDS: “No, I’m not waffling. What I don’t want to do is this: I don’t want to talk about a decision I don’t have to make at this point and time because that’s not important. Trent’s not playing this week. Damon Huard is the starting quarterback. What I don’t want to get caught in – and it happens every week when I come in here – is every week we win a game and Trent’s out they’re going to keep asking the question. Well, it’s not about Trent right now. It’s about the football team. It’s all it matters.”

Thats not the medias fault. Thats a different answer than the one he has been giving for the last 4 weeks.

Because he's sick of talking about it, so he's decided to **** with everybody a little bit.

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