Current and former Jeep Wrangler owners - Page 5

Archie F. Swin · 11:39 AM

I'm looking at 2007 as the year I replace my daily driver, a '94 Jeep Cherokee (4.0l 2wd). I'm looking for input and advice concerning a used Jeep Wrangler, a vehicle I am giving serious consideration as my next daily driver. I will probably try to find a '97 to 2000 Wrangler.

First of all why am I tiring of the Cherokee?
-It looks like the Exxon Valdez ran ashore on my driveway
-No driver's side airbag
-the auto tranny has been quirky lately, regualry slipping into what wrenches call "limp" mode
-the vehicle performs very poorly (read: dangerously) on icy, at times wet roads

Why am I considering a Wrangler?
I would like to have a vehicle with a bit more of a "fun to drive" factor, and more importantly I'm becoming increasingly more interested in owning a convertible. Now I know a Jeep Wrangler is not the first thing that comes to mind when you think convertible, but here's my reasoning.
Convertibles are one of three things A)two-seat roadsters B) limited production American cars C) expensive imports.
With that in mind I'm thinking that the Wrangler is the only vehicle I can squeeze my wife and two kids in, drop the top, and If it something fails mechanically...O'Reilly has the part on the shelf.

Even though my Cherokee has not been my favorite, primarily because of the stupid ****ing sensors, that can leave you on the side of the road if one fails, I do like the 4.0l engine because of the ease of maintenance and the common parts. Not to mention its a potent six-banger.

I would especially be interested in opinions in hard top vs soft top.

Eleazar · 05-03-2007, 04:00 PM

that does sound too good to be true... is it salvaged or something?

andoman · 05-03-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

that does sound too good to be true... is it salvaged or something?

Carfax doesn't show any salvage or flood records. 5 owners, but 4 of them in the last 3 years. It is for sale in PA but titled in AL. Owner says he just moved from AL back in with his parents in PA after his divorce.

Gracie Dean · 05-03-2007, 04:41 PM

I have a liberty renegade and its cool

kind of sporty but not too big

stevieray · 05-03-2007, 04:45 PM

90k on that motor is nothing...I'd snag it.

andoman · 05-03-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

90k on that motor is nothing...I'd snag it.

I'm trying to arrange a road trip to PA this weekend.

The owner assures me that nothing is wrong with it and it does look good, but that being a given, couldn't this guy take it to CarMAX or any other local dealer and get $3K for it? That's what worries me.

burt · 05-03-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by andoman

I'm trying to arrange a road trip to PA this weekend.

The owner assures me that nothing is wrong with it and it does look good, but that being a given, couldn't this guy take it to CarMAX or any other local dealer and get $3K for it? That's what worries me.

I would be very concerned.

andoman · 05-03-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale "Fat Fingers" Mercer

I would be very concerned.

Concerned that the Jeep isn't what it is advertised to be, concerned that it is a scam to get my money, or both?

burt · 05-03-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by andoman

Concerned that the Jeep isn't what it is advertised to be, concerned that it is a scam to get my money, or both?

For $3K? Both.

stevieray · 05-03-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by andoman

Concerned that the Jeep isn't what it is advertised to be, concerned that it is a scam to get my money, or both?

who gives a damn..even if it needed a tranny...that's still a smoking deal.

I'd buy it for that with a blown tranny.

andoman · 05-03-2007, 05:36 PM

Another strange tidbit... The guy actually had it up for auction on eBay Motors. He stated what he wanted for it ($3K), but hoped he would get more and would entertain offers. He said he was sick and couldn't drive it anymore. I contacted him through eBay because, given its reported condition, I expected the auction to go up well over $3K and was thinking about making an offer before it did. The auction got up close to $5K in the next few days and I had not heard from him so I stopped watching it. Shortly thereafter I get an email from him via eBay saying that he had a deadbeat bidder on his auction, but would still sell it to me for $3K, but only through a "Buy It Now" full payment on eBay. I've corresponded with him indicating I would be unwilling to do so without first seeing the Jeep and the clear title. I'd hate to waste the time and money on the trip to PA.

dred · 05-03-2007, 05:44 PM

Sounds like it "might" be a scam to me.

andoman · 05-03-2007, 06:14 PM

I appreciate everyone's input. Just to add more info to the discussion, here is the content from the eBay auction.

Vehicle Description

1997 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4.0, Black w/ Tan inter. New 2 1/2" Skyjacker lift and shocks. 32" BFG K/O tires, auto trans. w/ 3.73 gears. Black sailcloth soft top(extremely quiet) with tinted windows. Full doors also with tinted windows. Black brush guard available (not shown). The Sahara package includes painted wide fender flares, dark green seats, and fully carpeted floors. Tires come with lifetime warranty with free balance and rotations at NTB. Factory aluminum wheels available. Very clean Jeep, runs great, well taken care of. I hate to sell it, but I have to. I'm very sick and I can't drive it anymore. This is an awsome buy and you will not be disapointed with it! I will deliver the Jeep to you (within 200 miles) at no charge. If you have any questions feel free to contact me via email or you can call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx.

Seller added the following information:

my selling price is starts from $3000. this is the lower price i can sell it but i hope i will get more than that because the jeep is in excellent condition. if you want to make me an offer please contact me via ebay.

andoman · 05-03-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

who gives a damn..even if it needed a tranny...that's still a smoking deal.

I'd buy it for that with a blown tranny.

If it were closer to me, I would have no hesitation in going to see it. But it's a 14 hour drive. That's why I'm seeking the opinions and wealth of information from the quality members of ChiefsPlanet!

stevieray · 05-03-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by andoman

If it were closer to me, I would have no hesitation in going to see it. But it's a 14 hour drive. That's why I'm seeking the opinions and wealth of information from the quality member of ChiefsPlanet!

i hear that...one mans trash is another mans treasure...deals like this just don't come around very often...ever hear of a widow selling a pristine 65 stang for 1k? not very often, but it does happen...you could put three grand into it and prolly still make money if you decided to sell it.

go with your gut feeling.

kstater · 05-03-2007, 06:29 PM

I think at that price it might be a scam. On the other hand at that price it might be worth it to drive up there to see it. If it's legit give him cash and be on your way.

02-21-2007, 10:57 AM
Archie F. Swin This is the way Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Casino cash: $9975673	Current and former Jeep Wrangler owners I'm looking at 2007 as the year I replace my daily driver, a '94 Jeep Cherokee (4.0l 2wd). I'm looking for input and advice concerning a used Jeep Wrangler, a vehicle I am giving serious consideration as my next daily driver. I will probably try to find a '97 to 2000 Wrangler. First of all why am I tiring of the Cherokee? -It looks like the Exxon Valdez ran ashore on my driveway -No driver's side airbag -the auto tranny has been quirky lately, regualry slipping into what wrenches call "limp" mode -the vehicle performs very poorly (read: dangerously) on icy, at times wet roads Why am I considering a Wrangler? I would like to have a vehicle with a bit more of a "fun to drive" factor, and more importantly I'm becoming increasingly more interested in owning a convertible. Now I know a Jeep Wrangler is not the first thing that comes to mind when you think convertible, but here's my reasoning. Convertibles are one of three things A)two-seat roadsters B) limited production American cars C) expensive imports. With that in mind I'm thinking that the Wrangler is the only vehicle I can squeeze my wife and two kids in, drop the top, and If it something fails mechanically...O'Reilly has the part on the shelf. Even though my Cherokee has not been my favorite, primarily because of the stupid ***ing sensors, that can leave you on the side of the road if one fails, I do like the 4.0l engine because of the ease of maintenance and the common parts. Not to mention its a potent six-banger. I would especially be interested in opinions in hard top vs soft top. Last edited by Archie F. Swin; 02-21-2007 at 11:39 AM..*
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05-03-2007, 04:00 PM	#61
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	that does sound too good to be true... is it salvaged or something?
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05-03-2007, 04:41 PM	#63
Gracie Dean MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I have a liberty renegade and its cool kind of sporty but not too big Attached Thumbnails
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05-03-2007, 04:45 PM	#64
stevieray best in the biz Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $2045273	90k on that motor is nothing...I'd snag it.
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05-03-2007, 05:36 PM	#70
andoman You're not too far between Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midland, GA Casino cash: $9316464	Another strange tidbit... The guy actually had it up for auction on eBay Motors. He stated what he wanted for it ($3K), but hoped he would get more and would entertain offers. He said he was sick and couldn't drive it anymore. I contacted him through eBay because, given its reported condition, I expected the auction to go up well over $3K and was thinking about making an offer before it did. The auction got up close to $5K in the next few days and I had not heard from him so I stopped watching it. Shortly thereafter I get an email from him via eBay saying that he had a deadbeat bidder on his auction, but would still sell it to me for $3K, but only through a "Buy It Now" full payment on eBay. I've corresponded with him indicating I would be unwilling to do so without first seeing the Jeep and the clear title. I'd hate to waste the time and money on the trip to PA.
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05-03-2007, 05:44 PM	#71
dred Where is your will to be weird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Blacksburg, Virginia Casino cash: $9110753	Sounds like it "might" be a scam to me.
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05-03-2007, 06:14 PM	#72
andoman You're not too far between Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midland, GA Casino cash: $9316464	I appreciate everyone's input. Just to add more info to the discussion, here is the content from the eBay auction. Vehicle Description 1997 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4.0, Black w/ Tan inter. New 2 1/2" Skyjacker lift and shocks. 32" BFG K/O tires, auto trans. w/ 3.73 gears. Black sailcloth soft top(extremely quiet) with tinted windows. Full doors also with tinted windows. Black brush guard available (not shown). The Sahara package includes painted wide fender flares, dark green seats, and fully carpeted floors. Tires come with lifetime warranty with free balance and rotations at NTB. Factory aluminum wheels available. Very clean Jeep, runs great, well taken care of. I hate to sell it, but I have to. I'm very sick and I can't drive it anymore. This is an awsome buy and you will not be disapointed with it! I will deliver the Jeep to you (within 200 miles) at no charge. If you have any questions feel free to contact me via email or you can call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Seller added the following information: my selling price is starts from $3000. this is the lower price i can sell it but i hope i will get more than that because the jeep is in excellent condition. if you want to make me an offer please contact me via ebay. Last edited by andoman; 05-03-2007 at 07:12 PM..
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05-03-2007, 06:29 PM	#75
kstater Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2007 Casino cash: $1366563	I think at that price it might be a scam. On the other hand at that price it might be worth it to drive up there to see it. If it's legit give him cash and be on your way.
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