What advice would you give someone who is applying for supervisory position? - Page 5

**Saulbadguy** · 03-26-2007, 11:03 AM

When he has no supervisory experience. I need some buzzwords to throw around. I'd really like to get this job and get some sup/management experience under my belt. It's within the agency i'm in now, so I know I will get an interview, I just need some "helpful hints".

TIA!

**Saulbadguy** · 03-27-2007, 07:09 PM

GS ratings? No idea what that is all about.

This will be a supervisor of 5 employees, nothing big.

Slick32 · 03-27-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

GS ratings? No idea what that is all about.

This will be a supervisor of 5 employees, nothing big.

I presume by that statement that it isn't a federal government job. If it were you would know exactly waht a GS rating was.

I still highly recommend that you take a management class, especially if you get a job supervising people.

There is an old black and white movie named 12 O'Clock High. Staring Gregory Peck. In that movie you can find a mix of 6 distinct management styles. Most of them are bad. The best managers have a mix of the 6, but none of them as dominant characteristics of management. There are online courses you can take.

Trying to manage people with no skills in that area is a recipe for disaster. I've managed people for almost 20 years, if I hadn't of had some training it would not have been a pretty sight.

Braincase · 03-27-2007, 08:36 PM

When you show up for the interview, bring your own theme music.

**Saulbadguy** · 03-27-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick32

I presume by that statement that it isn't a federal government job. If it were you would know exactly waht a GS rating was.

I still highly recommend that you take a management class, especially if you get a job supervising people.

There is an old black and white movie named 12 O'Clock High. Staring Gregory Peck. In that movie you can find a mix of 6 distinct management styles. Most of them are bad. The best managers have a mix of the 6, but none of them as dominant characteristics of management. There are online courses you can take.

Trying to manage people with no skills in that area is a recipe for disaster. I've managed people for almost 20 years, if I hadn't of had some training it would not have been a pretty sight.

They do training available that I would take if I got the job.

Slick32 · 03-27-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

They do training available that I would take if I got the job.

I'd have trouble promoting you with that kind of attitude. If you really want to be a manager/supervisor, be proactive with your career. Good things come to those that wait, but better things come to those that prepare for the future.

**Iowanian** · 03-27-2007, 09:25 PM

My advice is that you probably shouldn't take advice from people on the internet with 2500 posts on a message board from work, about getting promoted.

They're either drones or already at the top and won't teach you the real secret handshake to let you in.

Good Luck.
Luck is where preparation and opportunity meet.

**Saulbadguy** · 03-27-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick32

I'd have trouble promoting you with that kind of attitude. If you really want to be a manager/supervisor, be proactive with your career. Good things come to those that wait, but better things come to those that prepare for the future.

It's not about being proactive, it's about not getting approved for management/supervisory training when i'm not a supervisor.

Slick32 · 03-27-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

It's not about being proactive, it's about not getting approved for management/supervisory training when i'm not a supervisor.

You are not thinking in a manner that makes me think you are not ready to take on the job of supervisor. If you want something bad enough you get ready on your own. If you wait to prepare until after you get a job you have already started out in the hole.

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Luck is where preparation and opportunity meet.

That is a quote that you need to take to heart. Stick a prybar in your wallet and invest in your future. Start some classes or correspondence courses on your own. Failure to prepare yourself can be your biggest down fall. When someone wants to be a doctor they don't just go to the hospital and put on the greens, they go to school to prepare. You need to do the same for yourself.

I don't really care if you do or don't. I looked forward and did what was necessary to have successful full time as well as part time careers.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka · 03-28-2007, 07:01 AM

Maybe you should impress them with your "high basketball IQ"; always seems to work on everyone here!

And ohh yeah make sure you mention that you are a commited individual as evidenced by your 2nd trip around the Old Chicago world beer tour; this will show that you stick to a task at hand and finish what you start.

**Skip Towne** · 03-28-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick32

I presume by that statement that it isn't a federal government job. If it were you would know exactly waht a GS rating was.

I still highly recommend that you take a management class, especially if you get a job supervising people.

There is an old black and white movie named 12 O'Clock High. Staring Gregory Peck. In that movie you can find a mix of 6 distinct management styles. Most of them are bad. The best managers have a mix of the 6, but none of them as dominant characteristics of management. There are online courses you can take.

Trying to manage people with no skills in that area is a recipe for disaster. I've managed people for almost 20 years, if I hadn't of had some training it would not have been a pretty sight.

You were "managing people" when you were in high school?

**Saulbadguy** · 03-28-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick32

You are not thinking in a manner that makes me think you are not ready to take on the job of supervisor. If you want something bad enough you get ready on your own. If you wait to prepare until after you get a job you have already started out in the hole.

I should pay for supervisory training out of my own pocket, when there is no guarantee i'll get the job?

I've thought of some scenarios where I have managed people, so I will whip those out and see if they flinch. I think that will work well.

**Skip Towne** · 03-28-2007, 07:24 AM

Hey Saul, how much competition is there for the job?

**Saulbadguy** · 03-28-2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Hey Saul, how much competition is there for the job?

Not sure yet. There will be 1 or 2 guys from the inside who will apply. Probably quite a few "outsiders". They typically do a pretty good job of promoting from within here, though.

Jenson71 · 03-28-2007, 07:49 AM

Saul, I hope you get the job. I don't have any good advice to give, except that you're a smart guy and deserve to have confidence in yourself. And your wife is good looking, you always have that going for you.

Slick32 · 03-28-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

You were "managing people" when you were in high school?

Depends on what you consider managing people. I'm over 18 and under 60.

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