6 picks...and only 1 head scratcher

[the Talking Can]

people aren't thrilled with Cottam....fine, there were other options there

but the other 5 picks are solid BAA and all will contribute in some fashion immediately...

that's much better ratio than we were expecting.....the least pain-inducing 6 picks in Chiefs history...great great VALUE

This is what "sticking to your board" looks like, and how you avoid Bartees, Siaviis, and Wilsons:


Round 1, Pick 5 (5) Glenn Dorsey DT 6'2" 316 LSU
Pick Analysis: Dorsey's dominance should go a long way toward helping Kansas City rebuild its defense. He should command double-teams and the Chiefs become better up the middle instantly. There were some concerns about problems with Dorsey's tibia stress fracture, which may have been the reason he was still on the board at this point. His best traits are outstanding agility and a great motor.


Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Lions) Branden Albert OG 6'6" 309 Virginia
Pick Analysis:Albert has the versatility to play guard or tackle in the NFL. He finishes blocks down the field and in space. He started 37 games (35 games at left guard, two at left tackle) for Virginia over three years. Has great overall athletic ability for a big man and could develop into the best offensive lineman in the draft.


Round 2, Pick 4 (35) Brandon Flowers CB 5'10" 189 Virginia Tech
Pick Analysis:With better speed, Flowers would have been a much higher pick. He plays the game faster than his timed speed indicates (4.55). Best traits are good instincts and physical play.


Round 3, Pick 10 (73) (From Broncos through Vikings) Jamaal Charles RB 5'11" 200 Texas
Pick Analysis:The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he's a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball.


Round 3, Pick 13 (76) (From Lions) Brad Cottam TE 6'8" 270 Tennessee
Pick Analysis:Cottam's problem was the fact that he only started 10 games in five years at Tennessee. He has very impressive size and skills for a tight end to go with speed in the 4.6's. The Chiefs may be looking for a future starter with Tony Gonzalez nearing the end of his career.


Round 3, Pick 19 (82) (From Vikings) DaJuan Morgan S 6'0" 205 North Carolina State
Pick Analysis:Morgan was a one-year starter and raw, but has good athletic ability and potential. He is the type of player who can get better in the pros with good coaching, because of his measurables and potential to develop. He is an excellent special teams player who originally made his mark in the kicking game.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-team|team-kc

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by markk

The had at least 4 guys in the passing offense who are true nfl talent.

So are you going on record as saying he is a really good pick in the 4th? I never watched him and really don't have an opinion other than his numbers are very underwhelming on the field and just know from experience that very few who put up modest numbers in college(except for injury reasons)rarely find something when the competition gets much tougher. Flordia, Miami, Ohio State, Tennessee type programs generally have 3 or 4 WR's on their team each year with NFL caliber talent yet the really good ones rise up above the pack and post high quality numbers.

[markk]

i said he is good value in the 4th round and your characterization of him as someone who wasn't even good on his team in d1 is not accurate.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by Coach

No, not becuase of what you mentioned. I just think his value is better in 4th than 3rd.

Either way, I'm glad that the Chiefs got Morgan over Zibs. I think Morgan is the perfect S for the Cover 2 defense.

A guy going in the later part of the 3rd round that you think is a 4th round talent isn't enough of a difference to call a "reach" IMO. A reach is taking a guy 10 or more spots too early at the top of the first round but when talking about the middle rounds taking a guy a couple rounds too early would be required to call a guy a reach in my book not 9 or 10 spots.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by markk

i said he is good value in the 4th round and your characterization of him as someone who wasn't even good on his team in d1 is not accurate.

Where did I say he wasn't even good on his team? I stated that he clearly didn't dominate at the college level which is what most legitimate NFL WR's do.

[siberian khatru]

If Cottam is a head scratcher, than Carr is a ball scratcher.

[Gravedigger]

Where the **** are the offensive linemen? Srsly this is starting to not address our key problems at all!

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

If Cottam is a head scratcher, than Carr is a ball scratcher.

I liked the Cottam pick. I watched the TE's workout during the combine and he was extremely impressive. Big SOB with skills more in line with a 6'2" type of pass catcher rather than a 6'7" giant.

[keg in kc]

The nice thing this year is that it took until the 3rd round for most people to even remotely question a pick. I didn't wake up until about noon, and my initial reaction when I saw the names on ESPN's scroll was WTF? but once I read up on these guys, it's not bad, although I'm still wondering why they took the TE so high, especially with Doucet on the board. But taking flyers like that don't really bother me when we're talking about a 3rd round pick in a year where we have 3.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Where the **** are the offensive linemen? Srsly this is starting to not address our key problems at all!

take a left, walk 5 miles to the city dump, look for the porta-potty with the star wars stickers on it....knock three times, say "we should trade down for OL" and you will be admitted to the WPI forum....

you'll feel at home there

[Chief Faithful]

I was super excited about the Cottam pick. Before the draft I saw Cottam as the perfect replacement for Jason Dunn. Everyone knows how important Dunn was for the running game and Cottam was the only TE in the draft with the size, skill, and aggressiveness to fully fill the position.

I see Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, and Cottam as starters from this draft. The rest I see as special teams contributors for next year.

I'm also interested in what people think of the Franklin pick. He sure fits Herm's profile for WR, tall and fast.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

The nice thing this year is that it took until the 3rd round for most people to even remotely question a pick. I didn't wake up until about noon, and my initial reaction when I saw the names on ESPN's scroll was WTF? but once I read up on these guys, it's not bad, although I'm still wondering why they took the TE so high, especially with Doucet on the board. But taking flyers like that don't really bother me when we're talking about a 3rd round pick in a year where we have 3.

I liked the Cottam pick and when they passed on Doucett at that point made me think they feel better about the WR's they have than I do...however when they turned around and took Frankilin in the 4th made me realize that may not be the case and taking Doucett would have been a good move in my book.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

If Cottam is a head scratcher, than Carr is a ball scratcher.

Cottam is the perfect pick for two tight end sets replacing Dunn. He should have gone in the second round except for a slow 40 time at the combine. Cottam is considered to be the most complete TE in the draft mostly because he is a good blocker.

The Chiefs are fortunate he was available at that pick and he should provide immediate help in the running game.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Cottam is the perfect pick for two tight end sets replacing Dunn. He should have gone in the second round except for a slow 40 time at the combine. Cottam is considered to be the most complete TE in the draft mostly because he is a good blocker.

The Chiefs are fortunate he was available at that pick and he should provide immediate help in the running game.

I'm not disputing the pick. My comment was directed to the thread starter, simple as that. It was a joke.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by milkman

One has to think that these picks tell (most of) us that, not only are the Chiefs sticking to their board, they also have higher hopes for guys like Herb Taylor and Rudy Niswanger than the average fan.

Exactly. Honestly, I don't know if it's good or bad. I mean last year they thought we'd be "ok" at OL, when most saw the situation as a train wreck.

[StcChief]

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

I was super excited about the Cottam pick. Before the draft I saw Cottam as the perfect replacement for Jason Dunn. Everyone knows how important Dunn was for the running game and Cottam was the only TE in the draft with the size, skill, and aggressiveness to fully fill the position.

I see Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, and Cottam as starters from this draft. The rest I see as special teams contributors for next year.

I'm also interested in what people think of the Franklin pick. He sure fits Herm's profile for WR, tall and fast.

Franklin is a "butts in the Arrowhead seats" player. Good MU local.