NFL Draft Scouts Inc. Top 32 - Page 5

RustShack · 01-08-2009, 01:53 PM

1. Andre Smith* OT Alabama 98
2. Aaron Curry OLB Wake For. 98
3. Michael Crabtree** WR Texas Tech 98
4. Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 97
5. Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State 97
6. Taylor Mays* S USC 91
7. Aaron Maybin** DE/OLB Penn State 96
8. Gerald McCoy* DT Oklahoma 96
9. Sam Bradford** QB Oklahoma 96
10. Brian Orakpo DE Texas 95
11. Jason Smith OT Baylor 95
12. Mark Sanchez* QB USC 95
13. Matthew Stafford* QB Georgia 94
14. Jeremy Maclin** WR Missouri 94
15. Knowshon Moreno** RB Georgia 94
16. Jermaine Gresham* TE Oklahoma 94
17. B.J. Raji* DT Boston Coll. 93
18. Vontae Davis* CB Illinois 93
19. Brandon Pettigrew TE Okla. State 93
20. Rey Maualuga ILB USC 93
21. Everette Brown* DE Florida State 93
22. Russell Okung* OT Okla. State 92
23. Brandon Spikes* ILB Florida 92
24. Tyson Jackson DE LSU 92
25. James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State 91
26. Brian Cushing OLB USC 91
27. Michael Oher OT Mississippi 91
28. Chris Wells* RB Ohio State 91
29. Percy Harvin* WR Florida 91
30. Greg Hardy* DE Mississippi 91
31. Terrence Cody* DT Alabama 91
32. Jerry Hughes** DE TCU 90

bowener · 01-08-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

1. Andre Smith* OT Alabama 98
2. Aaron Curry OLB Wake For. 98
3. Michael Crabtree** WR Texas Tech 98
4. Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 97
5. Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State 97
6. Taylor Mays* S USC 91
7. Aaron Maybin** DE/OLB Penn State 96
8. Gerald McCoy* DT Oklahoma 96
9. Sam Bradford** QB Oklahoma 96
10. Brian Orakpo DE Texas 95
11. Jason Smith OT Baylor 95
12. Mark Sanchez* QB USC 95
13. Matthew Stafford* QB Georgia 94
14. Jeremy Maclin** WR Missouri 94
15. Knowshon Moreno** RB Georgia 94
16. Jermaine Gresham* TE Oklahoma 94
17. B.J. Raji* DT Boston Coll. 93
18. Vontae Davis* CB Illinois 93
19. Brandon Pettigrew TE Okla. State 93
20. Rey Maualuga ILB USC 93
21. Everette Brown* DE Florida State 93
22. Russell Okung* OT Okla. State 92
23. Brandon Spikes* ILB Florida 92
24. Tyson Jackson DE LSU 92
25. James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State 91
26. Brian Cushing OLB USC 91
27. Michael Oher OT Mississippi 91
28. Chris Wells* RB Ohio State 91
29. Percy Harvin* WR Florida 91
30. Greg Hardy* DE Mississippi 91
31. Terrence Cody* DT Alabama 91
32. Jerry Hughes** DE TCU 90

I hope he ends up being a top 3 talent so we can justify picking him.

**HemiEd** · 01-08-2009, 06:36 PM

The Chicago Tribune had the Chiefs taking Everette Brown, DE Florida State, at 3.

**BigRedChief** · 01-09-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Uhh thats the whole point... trading out to the top just doesn't happen anymore.

Trade down? There have been one spot up and down trades but whens the last time a top #3 pick or higher was traded down? Ricky Williams?

suds79 · 01-09-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

20. Rey Maualuga ILB USC 93
21. Everette Brown* DE Florida State 93
23. Brandon Spikes* ILB Florida 92
25. James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State 91
27. Michael Oher OT Mississippi 91
31. Terrence Cody* DT Alabama 91

I'd be happy with any of these guys if they somehow slip to the 2nd.

LB & DE, obviously a need. Don't feel like I need to justify this.

Cody - Another DT which makes me sick but I believe our run D is soft because our D-line doesn't have enough size on it... Problem fixed with Cody.

Where was Duke Robinson? I'd about blow my top if we had a chance on him and passed in the 2nd. An incredible Guard prospect. (despite a bad game yesterday with penalties)

**alanm** · 01-09-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's just being picked apart for every little thing right now but he's still going to blow people away in his workout he has that ace in his pocket.

For the millionth time I'll go on record as saying I don't give a shit what kind of workout warrior a guy is. There's probably a couple of hundred guys who wowed them at the combine and had the scouts drooling that aren't even in the league anymore. I don't even care if he has a bazooka for an arm either. I care about his football smarts and his decision making ability and his leadership qualities.
The bottom line for me is.. Can he play football?

windwalker · 01-09-2009, 08:35 AM

I don't know why we spend so much time talking about the draft... right now the Chiefs need to nail down the GM. Then, depending on who it is and what his philosophy is, we can start speculating on the draft.

StcChief · 01-09-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Exactly. How can they universally account for positional value when each team has a differing positional value and need?

this is why it's BS.

Frankie · 01-09-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

By the time the draft comes, we'll be debating whether Stafford will be available in the second round, or if we should wait until the third.

That's my feeling too.

Frankie · 01-09-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

"Ryan=Blackledge"

Quoting folks out of context much?

Frankie · 01-09-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's just being picked apart for every little thing right now but he's still going to blow people away in his workout he has that ace in his pocket.

I thought you didn't believe in work out phenoms!

Brock · 01-09-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Quoting folks out of context much?

Out of context? You called Ryan "another Todd Blackledge". That's a direct quote.

Frankie · 01-09-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Out of context? You called Ryan "another Todd Blackledge". That's a direct quote.

I highly doubt that. I bet you are partial-quoting from a sentence like:

"With Ryan being a one year wonder, he might be another Todd Blackledge,"

I have that stand on all one-year wonders. To me Ryan had not proven much and with all info out on him I thought he was a risk as a top 5 pick. That's the same feeling I have about all three of the top QBs in the upcoming draft. Atlanta gambled and got lucky.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2009, 05:49 PM

TODAY:

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Originally Posted by Brock

Out of context? You called Ryan "another Todd Blackledge". That's a direct quote.

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Originally Posted by Frankie

I highly doubt that. I bet you are partial-quoting from a sentence like:

"With Ryan being a one year wonder, he might be another Todd Blackledge,"

I have that stand on all one-year wonders. To me Ryan had not proven much and with all info out on him I thought he was a risk as a top 5 pick. That's the same feeling I have about all three of the top QBs in the upcoming draft. Atlanta gambled and got lucky.

12/26/2007:

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Here is a new Matt Ryan scouting report from nfldraftcountdown. Not the type of report that makes me want to take this guy in the first round....

............

Really emerged as a top pro prospect as a senior, propelling his team to a great season even though he was surrounded by ordinary talent...Physical tools aren't special but they're adequate across the board .....

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Originally Posted by Frankie

OH NO!!... Another Todd Blackledge.

We drafted TB in the top ten based only on his Senior year "emergance."... Yikes!!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=169

Frankie · 01-09-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

TODAY:

12/26/2007:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=169

Meh, that was a loud expression. You exaggerate to make a point. Fact is I never had Ryan out of the top 20 in my evaluation. We picked Blackledge 5th or 6th if I remember right. My expression was to underline that. It was meant to emphasize that picking Ryan at 5 would be a risk like the Blackledge pick. But since my wording can actually be read that way I offer my apologies to Brock. My denial was based on what I know my evaluation of Ryan was then. And I know I still considered him a 1st round draft pick.

Mecca · 01-09-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm

For the millionth time I'll go on record as saying I don't give a shit what kind of workout warrior a guy is. There's probably a couple of hundred guys who wowed them at the combine and had the scouts drooling that aren't even in the league anymore. I don't even care if he has a bazooka for an arm either. I care about his football smarts and his decision making ability and his leadership qualities.
The bottom line for me is.. Can he play football?

Stafford has been a productive starter that improved each year....the point is the workout is his ace card before the draft that can boost him even higher..

And yes workouts are important to an extent..ideally you want a guy with great athletic measurables that has also played well.

Arm is a huge thing without it, you are limited in the kind of offense you can run with the QB you have.

01-08-2009, 01:53 PM
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