Chiefs KCJohnny’s 2009 Chiefs Opening Day Analysis - Page 5

KCJohnny · 11:20 PM

GM moves: signing Cassel for $60 million is a waste of cap space. Cassel started for an 18-1 team that set an NFL record with Brady’s 50 TD passes. Cassel threw for 21 with the identical lineup. Chiefs continue to struggle with DL draft picks and could have better spent the cap dollars on acquiring Albert Haynesworth and developing Thigpen, Croyle, or drafting Sanchez. Trading away the best TE to ever step onto an NFL field will cripple an offense already paper thin on receiving weapons. Bringing in players at the end of their career (Thomas, Engram, Vrabel, Toomer, et al) doesn’t seem to make sense for a team rebuilding.
　
HC: Haley is overrated as an OC and unproven as a HC. Firing Gailey who ably served in ’08 as OC/QBs coach is a mistake. Gailey is a father-figure with a proven track record for developing young talent and building offenses around existing capabilities. Haley is a screamer who tests, intimidates and threatens. The Parcells comparisons are overhyped IMHO. Haley rode to the top with a dream lineup at AZ that managed to stay healthy through January. He has 2 PB players on his current offense (Waters, LJ).

QBs: The Chiefs had a QB that accounted for 22 scores in just 11 starts last year. Cassel will get every chance to prove he is not another Derek Andersen. Croyle has the most talent and skill among the Chiefs QBs but questions about his durability persist. Gutierrez has enough talent to make the squad if KC succeeds in shopping Thigpen. Look for Croyle to start September 13 at Baltimore.^{Strengths: The 2009 Chiefs should run for 2000 yards if they can avoid falling behind early, something they mostly succeeded at in ’08. The bench is strong and the running game looked stout against vanilla defenses in pre-season. Defense will be soft between the 20s but may firm up in the RZ with the 3-4. Chiefs may wind up playing BucBall in low-scoring contests still up for grabs in the 4th quarter. Sound familiar?

Weaknesses: This offense has been putrid on 3rd downs. Without Gonzalez, 3rd downs seem impossible to convert regardless of who is under center. Unless Lelie rehabs his waning career (remember Derek Alexander in 2000? It can happen…), the Chiefs have no proven deep threat on the perimeter and will rely on a dink-dunk passing attack to mask vulnerabilities on a shuffling OL. Likewise, the defense is softer than wet tissue on 3rd downs, and will be staying on the field too long. Injuries could push a unit on the bubble off the cliff. Clancy Pendergast’s ’08 Cards advanced to the SB despite allowing 26.6 ppg in the regular season. The ’08 Chiefs yielded 27.7.

Analysis: Haley has bitten off more than he can chew as HC and OC. His bad cop style of leadership may wear thin on the squad unless they see results by the bye week. Revolving QBs may complicate Haley’s goals if injuries occur behind a makeshift OL that is still developing even basic chemistry. The test will be improving over the 17 week season. If the Chiefs appear to be buying in, performing well and keeping games close by December, Haley will be on his way. The AFC Worst could be conquered by an 8-8 team again this year, and even the hapless Chiefs cannot be counted out already.

Prediction: 5-11, last place.

Bargain of the year: Corey Mays at $395k. Gamer.

Make or break year: Glenn Dorsey has to prove he can thrive at DE in the 3-4.

Most likely to have a breakout year: Tamba Hali will benefit significantly from the 3-4.

Go Chiefs!

KCJohnny}

TEX · 09-05-2009, 11:33 AM

KCJ - I agree with most of what you said. However, I'm willing to give Haley a chance to prove himself. While I don't like the idea of him firing Chan this close to the season, I admire the fact that he is willing to put the bullseye directly on his shoulders. A very refreshing change of pace from Herm. If anyone is overrated, I think it's Pioli, as I am not a fan of what he has done thus far in KC. I simply can't ignore the fact that he virtually did N-O-T-H-I-N-G to improve what was already one of the worst OL's in the NFL. When you consider that he acquired what he believes to be a franchise QB, the decision he made to ignore the OL becomes even more unbelievable. In any case, I too see the Chiefs finishing last again in the AFC West, only I see them finishing at 3-13. For me, this season is not about the final record, it's more about improvement. (I said that last year and look what happened) I'd like to see the Chiefs become better, not worse as was the case with Herm, as the season goes on.
Take care friend.

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

didn't gochiefs get banned for something similar regarding Crazy Horse?

And he shouldn't have, either. Only reason he took a leave was because Crazy Horse adopted this shtick where he was all "GoChiefs doesn't deserve punishment. He's just a small person. It doesn't affect me;" only posting that over and over and over like a crybaby.

Mile High Mania · 09-05-2009, 01:30 PM

Wow... some of you guys really go over the top in your comments. It's just a guy posting his thoughts, you may not agree, but does it really warrant the comments? Grow up.

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Wow... some of you guys really go over the top in your comments. It's just a guy posting his thoughts, you may not agree, but does it really warrant the comments? Grow up.

Kill Yourself™

**SAUTO** · 09-05-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Wow... some of you guys really go over the top in your comments. It's just a guy posting his thoughts, you may not agree, but does it really warrant the comments? Grow up.

true that

**SAUTO** · 09-05-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Kill Yourself™

hamas is back somewhat and the "kill yourself" comes with him!!!!!

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

hamas is back somewhat and the "kill yourself" comes with him!!!!!

Well, its football season once again and the idiots have crawled out of the woodwork to make my board experience miserable. So its warranted.

Mecca · 09-05-2009, 01:37 PM

Reaper is a gentleman and a scholar, and that's all there is to that.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-05-2009, 01:37 PM

I don't really agree with KCJ... but why the hate? I mean, even the most well regarded guys on the board are wrong as much as they are right.

**SAUTO** · 09-05-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Well, its football season once again and the idiots have crawled out of the woodwork to make my board experience miserable. So its warranted.

i wasnt bashing you.

splatbass · 09-05-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I would like to see Cassel succeed in this offense, but dumping Gailey a week before the season begins was a mistake. The one thing I think you would agree with me about Gailey is that he gets max output from whomever is on his roster.

I thought Haley's play calling in the last game was a lot better than Gailey's has been. We actually threw the ball down the field and were aggressive. The problem was that we just didn't execute very well, mostly because of poor QB play.

Mecca · 09-05-2009, 01:40 PM

If KCJ started a team Kris Wilson would be his tailback.

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I don't really agree with KCJ... but why the hate? I mean, even the most well regarded guys on the board are wrong as much as they are right.

I hate you too, for what its worth.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i wasnt bashing you.

Ebolapox · 09-05-2009, 01:45 PM

keep in mind, both kcj and iowanian are of a catholic bent. iowanian's good people for the most part, but kcj is an assclown of the highest order.

(shared faith, I presume, brings iowanian to defend the assclown)

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

keep in mind, both kcj and iowanian are of a catholic bent. iowanian's good people for the most part, but kcj is an assclown of the highest order.

(shared faith, I presume, brings iowanian to defend the assclown)

That's certainly what brought Stevie to defend him.

There's nothing wrong with defending like-minded people, btw. I defend smart posters all of the time.

09-04-2009, 10:45 PM
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	KCJohnny’s 2009 Chiefs Opening Day Analysis GM moves: signing Cassel for $60 million is a waste of cap space. Cassel started for an 18-1 team that set an NFL record with Brady’s 50 TD passes. Cassel threw for 21 with the identical lineup. Chiefs continue to struggle with DL draft picks and could have better spent the cap dollars on acquiring Albert Haynesworth and developing Thigpen, Croyle, or drafting Sanchez. Trading away the best TE to ever step onto an NFL field will cripple an offense already paper thin on receiving weapons. Bringing in players at the end of their career (Thomas, Engram, Vrabel, Toomer, et al) doesn’t seem to make sense for a team rebuilding. 　 HC: Haley is overrated as an OC and unproven as a HC. Firing Gailey who ably served in ’08 as OC/QBs coach is a mistake. Gailey is a father-figure with a proven track record for developing young talent and building offenses around existing capabilities. Haley is a screamer who tests, intimidates and threatens. The Parcells comparisons are overhyped IMHO. Haley rode to the top with a dream lineup at AZ that managed to stay healthy through January. He has 2 PB players on his current offense (Waters, LJ). QBs: The Chiefs had a QB that accounted for 22 scores in just 11 starts last year. Cassel will get every chance to prove he is not another Derek Andersen. Croyle has the most talent and skill among the Chiefs QBs but questions about his durability persist. Gutierrez has enough talent to make the squad if KC succeeds in shopping Thigpen. Look for Croyle to start September 13 at Baltimore.^{Strengths: The 2009 Chiefs should run for 2000 yards if they can avoid falling behind early, something they mostly succeeded at in ’08. The bench is strong and the running game looked stout against vanilla defenses in pre-season. Defense will be soft between the 20s but may firm up in the RZ with the 3-4. Chiefs may wind up playing BucBall in low-scoring contests still up for grabs in the 4th quarter. Sound familiar? Weaknesses: This offense has been putrid on 3rd downs. Without Gonzalez, 3rd downs seem impossible to convert regardless of who is under center. Unless Lelie rehabs his waning career (remember Derek Alexander in 2000? It can happen…), the Chiefs have no proven deep threat on the perimeter and will rely on a dink-dunk passing attack to mask vulnerabilities on a shuffling OL. Likewise, the defense is softer than wet tissue on 3rd downs, and will be staying on the field too long. Injuries could push a unit on the bubble off the cliff. Clancy Pendergast’s ’08 Cards advanced to the SB despite allowing 26.6 ppg in the regular season. The ’08 Chiefs yielded 27.7. Analysis: Haley has bitten off more than he can chew as HC and OC. His bad cop style of leadership may wear thin on the squad unless they see results by the bye week. Revolving QBs may complicate Haley’s goals if injuries occur behind a makeshift OL that is still developing even basic chemistry. The test will be improving over the 17 week season. If the Chiefs appear to be buying in, performing well and keeping games close by December, Haley will be on his way. The AFC Worst could be conquered by an 8-8 team again this year, and even the hapless Chiefs cannot be counted out already. Prediction: 5-11, last place. Bargain of the year: Corey Mays at $395k. Gamer. Make or break year: Glenn Dorsey has to prove he can thrive at DE in the 3-4. Most likely to have a breakout year: Tamba Hali will benefit significantly from the 3-4. Go Chiefs! KCJohnny} Last edited by KCJohnny; 09-04-2009 at 11:20 PM.. Reason: sp
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09-05-2009, 11:33 AM	#61
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Galveston, TX Casino cash: $-1386873	KCJ - I agree with most of what you said. However, I'm willing to give Haley a chance to prove himself. While I don't like the idea of him firing Chan this close to the season, I admire the fact that he is willing to put the bullseye directly on his shoulders. A very refreshing change of pace from Herm. If anyone is overrated, I think it's Pioli, as I am not a fan of what he has done thus far in KC. I simply can't ignore the fact that he virtually did N-O-T-H-I-N-G to improve what was already one of the worst OL's in the NFL. When you consider that he acquired what he believes to be a franchise QB, the decision he made to ignore the OL becomes even more unbelievable. In any case, I too see the Chiefs finishing last again in the AFC West, only I see them finishing at 3-13. For me, this season is not about the final record, it's more about improvement. (I said that last year and look what happened) I'd like to see the Chiefs become better, not worse as was the case with Herm, as the season goes on. Take care friend. __________________ "Do we have time to run WASP?" Last edited by TEX; 09-05-2009 at 12:58 PM..
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Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: como Casino cash: $-1720097	keep in mind, both kcj and iowanian are of a catholic bent. iowanian's good people for the most part, but kcj is an assclown of the highest order. (shared faith, I presume, brings iowanian to defend the assclown)
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