Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

[dirk digler]

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+
The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

[gblowfish]

Chiefs might win six games this year.
You can't fix it all in one year, with one draft.
Still need a tackle, inside linebacker, wide receiver, nose tackle.
That's next year.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he also said:

"Kindle and Cody were steals." for the ravens


True Fans spent yesterday swearing they were bad picks and thank god we didn't take them....so i'm guessing they will all now admit to being wrong, since Gosselin has spoken

I don't understand the obsession with Kindle/Cody. Would they have been good picks at that spot? Yeah. But both come with a lot of risk. Kindle with his injured legs and Cody with his weight/motivation issues. There's a reason both fell as low as they did.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he also said:

"A team with quarterback problems no longer has any with the arrivals of Clausen and Pike"

of carolina


good thing we weren't a team with a quarterback problem...again, i'm guessing this the thread the True Fans admit to being wrong about Claussen since Gosselin has spoken

I would have taken Clausen. Hindsight is 20/20--I would have taken him in the first, given that nobody had any idea he'd slide that low. And I'd have to think that if he fell to 50, the Chiefs would have taken him. But given we knew he'd fall 10 spots from where he eventually landed, it would have been a reach.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't understand the obsession with Kindle/Cody. Would they have been good picks at that spot? Yeah. But both come with a lot of risk. Kindle with his injured legs and Cody with his weight/motivation issues. There's a reason both fell as low as they did.

But Gosselin gave our draft a good grade, and everyone says they'll take his words more than any one else, so, you can't just pick and choose which of his words carry more weight.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Chiefs might win six games this year.
You can't fix it all in one year, with one draft.
Still need a tackle, inside linebacker, wide receiver, nose tackle.
That's next year.

And keep in mind that we're never going to be perfect at every position--if I had to choose, I'd pick ILB and maybe receiver (given Weis' offensive approach) as way down on the priority list. And also that the free agency market in 2011 is going to be extremely rich with two classes of URFAs, essentially, and if Pioli's track record tells us anything, it's probably a year you expect him to load up on players.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

But Gosselin gave our draft a good grade, and everyone says they'll take his words more than any one else, so, you can't just pick and choose which of his words carry more weight.

I really like Gosselin.

I liked Kindle. I liked Cody. And I really liked Clausen. Either of them would have done fine.

But Gosselin also says we got good value in McCluster and Arenas. I'm so-so on the Arenas pick. I'm just trying to understand why so many people are pissed off to all hell that this was such a missed pick when most of the draft experts like Gosselin seem to love it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I really like Gosselin.

I liked Kindle. I liked Cody. And I really liked Clausen. Either of them would have done fine.

But Gosselin also says we got good value in McCluster and Arenas. I'm so-so on the Arenas pick. I'm just trying to understand why so many people are pissed off to all hell that this was such a missed pick when most of the draft experts like Gosselin seem to love it.

And by the way, since the claim was that Gosselin has great sources, I think the point to be made is that if Gosselin rated the draft as an A+, that's a sign that he's saying "based on what I know from my sources, this was the right spot to take these guys."

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And by the way, since the claim was that Gosselin has great sources, I think the point to be made is that if Gosselin rated the draft as an A+, that's a sign that he's saying "based on what I know from my sources, this was the right spot to take these guys."

He has great sources for his final mock.

Does he use these sources to write his grades?

[Sully]

Originally Posted by milkman

But Gosselin gave our draft a good grade, and everyone says they'll take his words more than any one else, so, you can't just pick and choose which of his words carry more weight.

That's silly.
There are thousands of people in the world who's opinion I value more than others(in any number of topics), but also pick and choose what I agree and disagree with.

[LaChapelle]

A+ for trying to sell tickets
It's a business first and hometown points is what the average ticket buyer wants
No QB in this class could've done that

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he also said:

"A team with quarterback problems no longer has any with the arrivals of Clausen and Pike"

of carolina


good thing we weren't a team with a quarterback problem...again, i'm guessing this the thread the True Fans admit to being wrong about Claussen since Gosselin has spoken

I didn't like hardly any of the picks and haven't defended many of them but alot of the so-called experts like our draft so maybe I am just stupid. That wouldn't be some kind of shock or anything.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Sully

That's silly.
There are thousands of people in the world who's opinion I value more than others(in any number of topics), but also pick and choose what I agree and disagree with.

Thank you.

You simply proved TC's point.

[The Bad Guy]

I'm going to say it right now. Jimmy Clausen will not beat out Matt Moore.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I didn't like hardly any of the picks and haven't defended many of them but alot of the so-called experts like our draft so maybe I am just stupid. That wouldn't be some kind of shock or anything.

I am ok with you or anyone scratching their head if they don't agree....that's just a difference in opinion, which is part of how this place got started.

It's when the discussions get personal that I shake my head and wonder.

mmaddog
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[milkman]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I'm going to say it right now. Jimmy Clausen will not beat out Matt Moore.

I don't give a rat's ass about Jimmy Clasen.

Never once have I said that he's a guy that I wanted.

I have always said that I wasn't sold on him.

This isn't about any specific player.

This is about full time players vs. part time players.