Chiefs Ten Things About Today's Game - Page 5

**gblowfish** · 08:32 PM

Ten Things About Today's Game:

10. Today we got our asses handed to us by our biggest rival. KC may have thought they were simply unbeatable at home. Today proved that you can't just show up and mail it in, even at Arrowhead. There was a little bit of good, a lot of bad, and a huge heaping helping of ugly in silver and black.

9. First, the good: We're going to the playoffs. That's good, that's very good indeed. Think about what a hollow victory this was today for Oakland. They go undefeated in the division, and don't make the playoffs. That's a super duper badge of futility. What was the difference? The difference was, KC beat Arizona, San Francisco, Jacksonville and Tennessee, and the Raiders didn't. Curiously, it seems except for AFC West teams, St. Louis and Seattle were the only teams they managed to beat this year. Oakland didn't even finish with a winning record. They're 8-8. And although it's mildly humorous that they kicked our ass when it didn't really matter, Coach Haley better figure out a way to beat the Raiders soon or fans will not be so forgiving in future years.

8. More Good: Tamba Hali had 2.5 sacks today - 14.5 for the year. He got screwed not getting picked for the Pro Bowl. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't get added later as an alternate if somebody drops out. Eric Berry led the team with seven tackles, as he continues to play strong -mostly- on run support. (Berry will also appear later in the bad news with the rest of the defense.) Eric Dorsey played pretty well today, and most of the Raiders running plays were away from his side. Succop was perfect on field goal attempts. Jackie Battle had almost as much offensive production as Thomas Jones. Tyler Palko had the best QB rating (95.1) of all QBs to play today on either side. OK...now I'm stretching for good things.

7. Bad Things: Where to begin? Offense? Defense? Special Teams? There was plenty to go around. Offense looked like the KC we saw in Pre-Season. Cassel ran for his life most of the day. Passes were dropped. Offensive line couldn't run block OR pass protect. KC has less than 60 yards of total offense at halftime. You can't just sleepwalk through an entire half of an NFL game and expect to win. Fat Albert got beat repeatedly by anyone and everyone. And Richardson was even worse, if that's possible. Go back and watch Richardson if you recorded the game. He gets beat over and over and over on both running plays and in pass protection. Worse, he dogged in on several plays. Once he lost his guy, he just quit. He didn't trail the play, or look for somebody else to hit, he just flat dogged it. If O'Callaghan wasn't so terrible, I'd bench Richardson after this game. Surely offensive tackle has to be high on next years draft list. KC averaged 2.8 yards per offensive play, and gave up seven sacks -two of those on Palko. Cassel just killed any comeback chances with a bad pick that led to an Oakland TD, followed by a pick six. By that time he had happy feet and was just chucking the ball to keep from getting killed. They should have taken him out right after the pick six. The game was out of reach at that point.

6. More Bad Things: Defense was extremely shaky against a Raider offense that isn't all that. Raiders played two different QBs. Their second string running back went for 137 yards and averaged 5.5 per carry. Raiders won battle of first downs, total offensive yards, and time of possession, despite having twice as many penalties as KC. The first TD the defense gave up was a monster drive, and the Raiders first TD drive in the second half was sustained by two stupid defensive penalties. The face mask on Belcher was especially hurtful. A word about Belcher: He better watch his ass next year or he may be on the street. Last week he whiffed on geriatric Kerry Collins on a blitz, Collins threw a TD bomb because Belcher "Ole'd" him. This week, Belcher pulled Jason Campbell down by the face mask for no good reason. The play was already disrupted. That was just a bone headed, drive prolonging, killer penalty. Inexcusable, and the kind of play that gets you beat. It was the kind of play a Raider would make. Run defense gave up too many big plays right up the gut. Berry was out of position on the longest runs, and that's more rookie baggage. Today's run defense looked a lot like last year's run defense. Romeo, Romeo. Wherefore art thou, Romeo?

5. Even More Bad Things: Our special teams have been disturbingly non-productive, especially when comparing the last few weeks to the first few weeks of the season. Colquitt only averaged 38 yards a punt today. That about seven yards less that we should get from him. We had one decent punt return very late in the game when it didn't matter. Neither Arenas or McCluster has done much for a few weeks now. Today Sea Bass kept kicking off mortar shots that were fielded by the up-men to negate any long kick returns. But on punts, we need to block better. Arenas was having a hard time judging the wind, and when he did get room to run, nobody blocked for him. We can do better, we've seen it work earlier in the year.

4. The Ugly Things: There were lots of ugly Raider fans in the stands today. I have a theory about Raider fans. I'd guess there were maybe fifty fans who actually live in or near Oakland. The rest of them are just sleaze balls, convicts, loser misfits and tough guy wanna be's. There's a lot of greasy scum who just identify with the Raiders, because frankly, they worship evil. Just about every Raiders fan I've ever met -who has never even been to California- is a sociopathic waste of skin. Every dog has its day. Today was ugly dog day at Arrowhead. I hate their fans and every time I see them en masse, I realize there's no way in God's Green Earth I could EVER be a social worker (or in the case of these people THEIR social worker). Also ugly was that Cassel, Bowe and Charles all got beat up pretty good today. The sacks on Cassel and hurried throws were the reason for his picks. Charles got dinged up a couple times. Bowe took a stinger to the shoulder in the fourth quarter. I don't think any of the three took anything that will keep them out next week, but they all got beat up.

3. The Charlie Weis thing: This AM Petro was saying this is a family thing. Charlie wants to go to Florida and start teaching his son how to be a coach. OK, I can understand that. I think there's probably more to it. I think there might be some friction between Charlie and Coach Haley, but they'd never say that in public. The Chiefs PR Gestapo is pretty good at covering up anything that would smack of discontent. But why couldn't Charlie had sat on that until AFTER the playoffs? Why does it have to come out now? Timing seems a bit weird. I hope it was not a distraction, but after having less than 60 yards of total offense in the first half, you have to wonder if Charlie's head was in the game today.

2. I'm glad they did the Marty Hall of Honor induction thing this week instead of next week. We don't want Marty getting ANYWHERE NEAR our playoff game. People were very kind to Marty today, and a lot of his former players came back for his halftime ceremony. Marty looks old now, and seeing him look old makes me feel old too.. because I am getting older. The cold today works a lot harder on me now than it used to. My aging also makes me itchy for success. I won't live through another twenty year five year plan, that's for sure.

1. KC finished 10-6, and won the AFC West. That is a major accomplishment, no matter what happens from here on out. I am very skeptical about how we'll fare in the playoffs. I think we're clearly the weakest team in the AFC side of the tournament, and Baltimore is built very much like Oakland. Strong front seven on defense, good cover guys in the secondary, and a decent ground game. And Flacco is farther along in his development process as a starting QB than Cassel. If we get the same effort next week that we got today, it could be a Manning Style playoff butt kicking all over again. Again, in a strange way, The Raiders may have done us a favor today. Hopefully KC will take this as a wake up call that they are not unbeatable at Arrowhead. The home cooking and home crowd helps, but in the end, you have to go out and earn it. Now it's all about earning it. Good luck to us, and let's try to enjoy at least one more week. We're in the playoffs baby!

Hammock Parties · 01-03-2011, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

You are going to be held accountable this week. The data is being gathered. You are a poor excuse for a man. I still can't believe the garbage you would say to a person whose life hangs in the balance. I don't know how you sleep at night, Clayton. Your parents did you a real disservice.

Idle threats.

**pr_capone** · 01-03-2011, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Idle threats.

Are you sending messages to a dude that had a lung replacement death wishes?

01-03-2011, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Are you actually gonna whoop his ass? I know you said you wanted to. I'm gonna be at the game... I'd love to see this going down. If what was said was true, and he is sending those messages... Wendler can suck on a bag of dicks.

It would be silly of me to announce my intention to assault somebody in advance. It would also be silly of me to create a parking lot spectacle for the enjoyment of others. This is not about entertaining a crowd. It's about paying for what has been said and done. I am not going to hunt Clayton down in the parking lot but if I happen to see him, I would imagine that he will answer for his treatment of CrazyHorse.

**pr_capone** · 01-03-2011, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

It would be silly of me to announce my intention to assault somebody in advance. It would also be silly of me to create a parking lot spectacle for the enjoyment of others. This is not about entertaining a crowd. It's about paying for what has been said and done. I am not going to hunt Clayton down in the parking lot but if I happen to see him, I would imagine that he will answer for his treatment of CrazyHorse.

**BossChief** · 01-03-2011, 03:03 AM

Hey GoChiefs, without knowing anything more than what is being insinuated in this thread....what the **** is wrong with you, as a person?

**pr_capone** · 01-03-2011, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Hey GoChiefs, without knowing anything more than what is being insinuated in this thread....what the **** is wrong with you, as a person?

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....&postcount=135

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

I can tell you this without a doubt does not warrant a ban of any kind.

Gochiefs told me (a terminal lung transplant patient) when I told him he didn't know shit about football, he wished I would just hurry up and die already. Half the board was outraged, the other half sluffed it off like it was no big deal.

Then Gochiefs apologized publicly to me when he saw the negative response he was getting. Only to send me more death wishes in personal messages. He says he is respecting the forum by not wishing me dead in the forum and keeping it in the personal messages. He still to this day sends me "death wishes".

In the end, banning was not a required result then so it shouldn't be now. IMO what GC did was worse. He seeks me out in PMs to let me know he wishes I would die and get it over with.

The way I look at it, is the guy has to live with himself being that kind if man and that is punishment enough for me. Nothing he says will improve or degrade my life as I live it. Him wishing me dead just lets me know I am under his skin and that is its own reward.

Thats my .02

Frosty · 01-03-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

What I saw was a team that was in "we are gonna try to win by playing as vanilla as possible so we dont tip any of our hand going into the playoffs" mode

I hope Im right.

I think you are. It definitely looked to me that they were almost at preseason level of vanilla on both defense and offense. Combine that with a "I don't want to be here" level of intensity and you have the disaster we saw yesterday.

Chiefnj2 · 01-03-2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....&postcount=135

Wow, sometimes I sleep through the messed up stuff. That's just horrible. I can't imagine why the mods allow such double standards in banning people.

Chief Henry · 01-03-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Branden Albert blocked me on Facebook today. It was his best and only block of the day. I can't understand why: 2nd year un-drafted DT out of football powerhouse Harvard, Desmond Bryant has 2.5 sacks in his career. Two of them have come against Branden Albert - Glad I sold my Chiefs tickets for next week. This kind of uninspired performance isn't worth spending the gas money to drive to the stadium.

Spot on. I gave serious considerations of making the road trip south for the playoff game. Was going to take my nephew in High School. I had him come over to watch the game with me and after the game yesterday I was going to ask ask his mom if I could take him. But, after that POS display I decided not to drop the $$$ and the time. All the other contenders - at least by the scores of the games must have looked sharp. Maybe they did mail it in, maybe not, but I'm not going to get excitied after that display. The team looked like a f'n fraud and are lucky to have played the NFC West this season. Good teams don't get pushed around like that that and then puked on infront of their HOME FANS like that. The Raiders came to town and flat out abused the chiefs and our O line acted like they could give a rats azz about protecting Cassel. THE POS D lineman who abused Cassel in the 1st half should have been a marked man by our O line and it appeared the O line didn't even attempt to get even.

AM I happy the Chiefs are in the playoffs? Right now....I feel mehhhh after that performance on SUnday. Right now I'm pondering about our head coach and his ability to control his ego. Bill Cowher is looking dam good right now to me.

cardken · 01-03-2011, 09:09 AM

The Charlie Weis thing: This AM Petro was saying this is a family thing. Charlie wants to go to Florida and start teaching his son how to be a coach. OK, I can understand that. I think there's probably more to it. I think there might be some friction between Charlie and Coach Haley, but they'd never say that in public. The Chiefs PR Gestapo is pretty good at covering up anything that would smack of discontent. But why couldn't Charlie had sat on that until AFTER the playoffs? Why does it have to come out now? Timing seems a bit weird. I hope it was not a distraction, but after having less than 60 yards of total offense in the first half, you have to wonder if Charlie's head was in the game today.

I think despite any clubs PR machine is these days, there is too much media out of their control to keep things under-wraps for too long. And I guess they figure it's better to get it out there than to have someone scoop the story and make the whole thing awkward for everyone. IMO

cardken · 01-03-2011, 09:14 AM

I think Haley is a bit of an egotist but who aren't in his position. I think the tell tell sign was how he fire Gailey, despite how bad he may or may not have been, firing him so close to the start of a season, in retrospect looks ego driven.
I would think if I had a man sitting across the table from me sporting three Super Bowl rings, I might be inclined to listen to him. But Pride and Ego are tough animals to tame and keep in check for a lot of people, I guess Haley included.

cardken · 01-03-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

I think you are. It definitely looked to me that they were almost at preseason level of vanilla on both defense and offense. Combine that with a "I don't want to be here" level of intensity and you have the disaster we saw yesterday.

If this is the case the coaching staff should be taken out back and beaten. You play to win, always. Not half speed not walk through, but to win. Look at the rest of the Playoff teams already seeded, they didn't dog it out there, they made statements games going into the Playoffs.
Don't make excuses for the Ass clowning that went on yesterday, no excuses.

Deberg_1990 · 01-03-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Henry

Spot on. I gave serious considerations of making the road trip south for the playoff game. Was going to take my nephew in High School. I had him come over to watch the game with me and after the game yesterday I was going to ask ask his mom if I could take him. But, after that POS display I decided not to drop the $$$ and the time. All the other contenders - at least by the scores of the games must have looked sharp. Maybe they did mail it in, maybe not, but I'm not going to get excitied after that display. The team looked like a f'n fraud and are lucky to have played the NFC West this season. Good teams don't get pushed around like that that and then puked on infront of their HOME FANS like that. The Raiders came to town and flat out abused the chiefs and our O line acted like they could give a rats azz about protecting Cassel. THE POS D lineman who abused Cassel in the 1st half should have been a marked man by our O line and it appeared the O line didn't even attempt to get even.

AM I happy the Chiefs are in the playoffs? Right now....I feel mehhhh after that performance on SUnday. Right now I'm pondering about our head coach and his ability to control his ego. Bill Cowher is looking dam good right now to me.

Lets keep things in perspective. The Chiefs just made the playoffs in what was basically a rebuilding year. Think about that for a minute. The Chiefs have a ton of holes, no depth and still made the playoffs. I will state that This team is isnt as bad as its critics think nor as good as its "homers" believe. The main thing to take away from this year is that we appear to be ascending and not an already complete project like alot of Chiefs playoff teams in the past.

MOhillbilly · 01-03-2011, 09:33 AM

If weis truely wanted to get his son into coaching why not go to the FO and have them create a QC spot on the coaching staff?
Its not like it hasnt been done before.

Ticket sale will come down after the beating. Still i think this club has a punchers chance against the ravens.
Knock them legs out early and hang the **** on.
early line?

tooge · 01-03-2011, 09:34 AM

agreed on all counts. Well done. I must add to the raider fan take. Why is it, that every raider fan I see is either dirty, fat, bald, goutee wearing, smoking, or drunk. Actually, why are they all pretty much all of these things? I mean, as much as I hate Denver and San Diego, at least the fans of those teams look like normal human beings. Why is the typical raider fan a fat guy that is drunk, that couln't fight his way out of a paper bag, acting like a badass?

01-02-2011, 08:17 PM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17586178 VARSITY	Ten Things About Today's Game Ten Things About Today's Game: 10. Today we got our asses handed to us by our biggest rival. KC may have thought they were simply unbeatable at home. Today proved that you can't just show up and mail it in, even at Arrowhead. There was a little bit of good, a lot of bad, and a huge heaping helping of ugly in silver and black. 9. First, the good: We're going to the playoffs. That's good, that's very good indeed. Think about what a hollow victory this was today for Oakland. They go undefeated in the division, and don't make the playoffs. That's a super duper badge of futility. What was the difference? The difference was, KC beat Arizona, San Francisco, Jacksonville and Tennessee, and the Raiders didn't. Curiously, it seems except for AFC West teams, St. Louis and Seattle were the only teams they managed to beat this year. Oakland didn't even finish with a winning record. They're 8-8. And although it's mildly humorous that they kicked our ass when it didn't really matter, Coach Haley better figure out a way to beat the Raiders soon or fans will not be so forgiving in future years. 8. More Good: Tamba Hali had 2.5 sacks today - 14.5 for the year. He got screwed not getting picked for the Pro Bowl. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't get added later as an alternate if somebody drops out. Eric Berry led the team with seven tackles, as he continues to play strong -mostly- on run support. (Berry will also appear later in the bad news with the rest of the defense.) Eric Dorsey played pretty well today, and most of the Raiders running plays were away from his side. Succop was perfect on field goal attempts. Jackie Battle had almost as much offensive production as Thomas Jones. Tyler Palko had the best QB rating (95.1) of all QBs to play today on either side. OK...now I'm stretching for good things. 7. Bad Things: Where to begin? Offense? Defense? Special Teams? There was plenty to go around. Offense looked like the KC we saw in Pre-Season. Cassel ran for his life most of the day. Passes were dropped. Offensive line couldn't run block OR pass protect. KC has less than 60 yards of total offense at halftime. You can't just sleepwalk through an entire half of an NFL game and expect to win. Fat Albert got beat repeatedly by anyone and everyone. And Richardson was even worse, if that's possible. Go back and watch Richardson if you recorded the game. He gets beat over and over and over on both running plays and in pass protection. Worse, he dogged in on several plays. Once he lost his guy, he just quit. He didn't trail the play, or look for somebody else to hit, he just flat dogged it. If O'Callaghan wasn't so terrible, I'd bench Richardson after this game. Surely offensive tackle has to be high on next years draft list. KC averaged 2.8 yards per offensive play, and gave up seven sacks -two of those on Palko. Cassel just killed any comeback chances with a bad pick that led to an Oakland TD, followed by a pick six. By that time he had happy feet and was just chucking the ball to keep from getting killed. They should have taken him out right after the pick six. The game was out of reach at that point. 6. More Bad Things: Defense was extremely shaky against a Raider offense that isn't all that. Raiders played two different QBs. Their second string running back went for 137 yards and averaged 5.5 per carry. Raiders won battle of first downs, total offensive yards, and time of possession, despite having twice as many penalties as KC. The first TD the defense gave up was a monster drive, and the Raiders first TD drive in the second half was sustained by two stupid defensive penalties. The face mask on Belcher was especially hurtful. A word about Belcher: He better watch his ass next year or he may be on the street. Last week he whiffed on geriatric Kerry Collins on a blitz, Collins threw a TD bomb because Belcher "Ole'd" him. This week, Belcher pulled Jason Campbell down by the face mask for no good reason. The play was already disrupted. That was just a bone headed, drive prolonging, killer penalty. Inexcusable, and the kind of play that gets you beat. It was the kind of play a Raider would make. Run defense gave up too many big plays right up the gut. Berry was out of position on the longest runs, and that's more rookie baggage. Today's run defense looked a lot like last year's run defense. Romeo, Romeo. Wherefore art thou, Romeo? 5. Even More Bad Things: Our special teams have been disturbingly non-productive, especially when comparing the last few weeks to the first few weeks of the season. Colquitt only averaged 38 yards a punt today. That about seven yards less that we should get from him. We had one decent punt return very late in the game when it didn't matter. Neither Arenas or McCluster has done much for a few weeks now. Today Sea Bass kept kicking off mortar shots that were fielded by the up-men to negate any long kick returns. But on punts, we need to block better. Arenas was having a hard time judging the wind, and when he did get room to run, nobody blocked for him. We can do better, we've seen it work earlier in the year. 4. The Ugly Things: There were lots of ugly Raider fans in the stands today. I have a theory about Raider fans. I'd guess there were maybe fifty fans who actually live in or near Oakland. The rest of them are just sleaze balls, convicts, loser misfits and tough guy wanna be's. There's a lot of greasy scum who just identify with the Raiders, because frankly, they worship evil. Just about every Raiders fan I've ever met -who has never even been to California- is a sociopathic waste of skin. Every dog has its day. Today was ugly dog day at Arrowhead. I hate their fans and every time I see them en masse, I realize there's no way in God's Green Earth I could EVER be a social worker (or in the case of these people THEIR social worker). Also ugly was that Cassel, Bowe and Charles all got beat up pretty good today. The sacks on Cassel and hurried throws were the reason for his picks. Charles got dinged up a couple times. Bowe took a stinger to the shoulder in the fourth quarter. I don't think any of the three took anything that will keep them out next week, but they all got beat up. 3. The Charlie Weis thing: This AM Petro was saying this is a family thing. Charlie wants to go to Florida and start teaching his son how to be a coach. OK, I can understand that. I think there's probably more to it. I think there might be some friction between Charlie and Coach Haley, but they'd never say that in public. The Chiefs PR Gestapo is pretty good at covering up anything that would smack of discontent. But why couldn't Charlie had sat on that until AFTER the playoffs? Why does it have to come out now? Timing seems a bit weird. I hope it was not a distraction, but after having less than 60 yards of total offense in the first half, you have to wonder if Charlie's head was in the game today. 2. I'm glad they did the Marty Hall of Honor induction thing this week instead of next week. We don't want Marty getting ANYWHERE NEAR our playoff game. People were very kind to Marty today, and a lot of his former players came back for his halftime ceremony. Marty looks old now, and seeing him look old makes me feel old too.. because I am getting older. The cold today works a lot harder on me now than it used to. My aging also makes me itchy for success. I won't live through another twenty year five year plan, that's for sure. 1. KC finished 10-6, and won the AFC West. That is a major accomplishment, no matter what happens from here on out. I am very skeptical about how we'll fare in the playoffs. I think we're clearly the weakest team in the AFC side of the tournament, and Baltimore is built very much like Oakland. Strong front seven on defense, good cover guys in the secondary, and a decent ground game. And Flacco is farther along in his development process as a starting QB than Cassel. If we get the same effort next week that we got today, it could be a Manning Style playoff butt kicking all over again. Again, in a strange way, The Raiders may have done us a favor today. Hopefully KC will take this as a wake up call that they are not unbeatable at Arrowhead. The home cooking and home crowd helps, but in the end, you have to go out and earn it. Now it's all about earning it. Good luck to us, and let's try to enjoy at least one more week. We're in the playoffs baby! Last edited by gblowfish; 01-02-2011 at 08:32 PM..
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01-03-2011, 03:03 AM	#65
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1364088	Hey GoChiefs, without knowing anything more than what is being insinuated in this thread....what the **** is wrong with you, as a person?
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01-03-2011, 09:09 AM	#70
cardken Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	The Charlie Weis thing: This AM Petro was saying this is a family thing. Charlie wants to go to Florida and start teaching his son how to be a coach. OK, I can understand that. I think there's probably more to it. I think there might be some friction between Charlie and Coach Haley, but they'd never say that in public. The Chiefs PR Gestapo is pretty good at covering up anything that would smack of discontent. But why couldn't Charlie had sat on that until AFTER the playoffs? Why does it have to come out now? Timing seems a bit weird. I hope it was not a distraction, but after having less than 60 yards of total offense in the first half, you have to wonder if Charlie's head was in the game today. I think despite any clubs PR machine is these days, there is too much media out of their control to keep things under-wraps for too long. And I guess they figure it's better to get it out there than to have someone scoop the story and make the whole thing awkward for everyone. IMO __________________ This country can't be knocked out in one punch. We get right back up again and when we do the world is going to hear the roar of our engines. Yeah. It's halftime, America. And our second half is about to begin.
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01-03-2011, 09:14 AM	#71
cardken Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	I think Haley is a bit of an egotist but who aren't in his position. I think the tell tell sign was how he fire Gailey, despite how bad he may or may not have been, firing him so close to the start of a season, in retrospect looks ego driven. I would think if I had a man sitting across the table from me sporting three Super Bowl rings, I might be inclined to listen to him. But Pride and Ego are tough animals to tame and keep in check for a lot of people, I guess Haley included. __________________ This country can't be knocked out in one punch. We get right back up again and when we do the world is going to hear the roar of our engines. Yeah. It's halftime, America. And our second half is about to begin.
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01-03-2011, 09:33 AM	#74
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	If weis truely wanted to get his son into coaching why not go to the FO and have them create a QC spot on the coaching staff? Its not like it hasnt been done before. Ticket sale will come down after the beating. Still i think this club has a punchers chance against the ravens. Knock them legs out early and hang the **** on. early line? __________________ True Son of Liberty
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01-03-2011, 09:34 AM	#75
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $3484112	agreed on all counts. Well done. I must add to the raider fan take. Why is it, that every raider fan I see is either dirty, fat, bald, goutee wearing, smoking, or drunk. Actually, why are they all pretty much all of these things? I mean, as much as I hate Denver and San Diego, at least the fans of those teams look like normal human beings. Why is the typical raider fan a fat guy that is drunk, that couln't fight his way out of a paper bag, acting like a badass?
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