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**Nzoner** · 01-12-2011, 10:12 PM

out of the J-E-T-S this Sunday.

Hey Rex and gang when you finally sport some hardware,then run your mouth if you must.

Rex Ryan offers no apology for Cromartie's comments on Brady

cromartie_0112.jpgFOXBORO -- Jets coach Rex Ryan just finished his conference call with the New England media and offered no apologizes for his cornerback Antonio Cromartie, who in an interview with the New York Daily News used a crude slur to label Tom Brady.

"We're not apologizing for anything," said Ryan. "Did we vote [Brady] to be the starting quarterback in the Pro Bowl? Yes we did. Did we vote him for the NFL Player of the Year? Yeah we did, so there's plenty of respect but we don't have to be all lovey dovey and say, 'Oh he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.' We have a right to our opinion and a comment like that, it's no big deal. A guy makes a comment, big deal."

Unlike Bill Belichick, who doesn't like his players giving bulletin board material to opposing teams, Ryan doesn't have a problem with it.

"In this country you're allowed to have opinions and all that kind of stuff," Ryan said. "Obviously as an organization we respect Tom Brady, there's no question about it. But hey, is there dislike between us and Brady, and Brady against the Jets? Of course there is. Am I going to punish Cromartie for saying something or whatever? No. I know one thing, we respect New England but we don't fear them. A comment like that, it just [shows] that they're the enemy."

In the Daily News article, Cromartie said that the Jets took exception when Brady threw a fourth-quarter touchdown and pointed to the Jets sidelines during the Patriots 45-3 win in Week 13.

"We see that a lot. He does that a lot," said Cromartie. "That's the kind of guy he is. We really don't give a damn, to tell you the truth."

Cromartie said that he "hates" both Brady and the Patriots.

"Everything is personal with me and the Patriots," said Cromartie, who was a rookie with San Diego when the Patriots overcame a 21-13 fourth-quarter deficit to beat the Chargers, 24-21, in the Divisional round of the playoffs in 2006. "So I really don't care. I don't have too much to say about them. I'm just ready to play ball on Sunday."

Cromartie also gave a little hint for Sunday's game plan on how to stop Brady and his receivers.

"If I beat the (expletive) out of his receivers, he can't throw the ball," Cromartie said.
When asked if that was indeed the Jets game plan, Ryan said that the Jets players didn't get the game plan until today.

Ryan is a trash-talking coach and his players follow his lead.

"I think maybe they do follow my lead in the fact that, you know what, we can say what's on our mind or whatever," said Ryan. "I don't say whatever we do don't say this or don't say that. We're a transparent organization. We let our guys speak and we don't try to tell them what to say and what not to say."

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BRADY's RESPONSE...I love the last paragraph

Much like his coach, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady isn't about to get into a war of words with anyone on the Jets this week.

Brady spoke to the large media assembly at his locker this morning and was asked if he had any response to the obscenity-laced comments made about him by Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie.

"I've been called worse," Brady said when informed that Cromartie called him an [expletive]. "I'm sure there's a long list of people that feel that way but he's a good player, [Darrelle] Revis is a great player. They've got a great secondary. They're one of the best defenses we face. We're going to spend a lot of time preparing for them.

"What they're capable of doing over there, shutting down the Colts offense like they did, was pretty impressive because we know how good that offense is, but we're going to get ready to play."

Brady was also asked about pointing at the sidelines after big plays and other so-called "antics" as described by Jets coach Rex Ryan earlier in the week.

"I'm an emotional player, so it's all in the spirit of the game and the competition," Brady said. "I don't know [if there's anything to Ryan's observations], he can probably answer that better than I could."

Brady was asked if it was a little more fun to face a team where there is strong dislike on both sides.

"Is it more fun? It's always more satisfying to win," Brady said. "Especially in games like this, not that you need more satisfaction to win in a game like this because it's the biggest game we played all season and I'm always satisfied when we win. I think there's certainly big games that we had against them. The last game at home was a very big game, that was very satisfying, so this one will be satisfying also if we win."

Regarding all the talk coming out of Jets camp this week, Brady wasn't fazed in the least.

"We're spending our time getting ready to play," Brady said. "I don't think we're spending our time figuring out what we can do to combat what people may say about us. Not everybody has great things to say about our team, or our organization, or certain players. And that's kind of the way it's always been so... we're just going to do our talking on the field. I think that's what we've always chosen to do."

Brady said the outcome of Sunday's game will determine if all the talk had any effect.

We'll see," he said. "We'll see on Sunday afternoon at 7:30 p.m. That's when everybody will be able to tell whether it played a role or not. We'll have to wait and see."

The Patriots quarterback was also asked about comments made earlier in the week by Ryan that questioned Brady's commitment to studying the game.

"I do what my coach asks me to do and however he feels I need to prepare, he'll let me know," Brady said. "We try to win games, you know? Look at what we've accomplished over 10 years and I think that speaks to the whole preparation of our team. That's why we play, we play to win games more so than anything else. You're not trying to do anything other than win. The goal of playing football is to win, every time you take the field, score more points than the other team, however you need to get that done, that's what you need to do..."

"We don't engage in it very often," Brady said about all the pregame talk. "Every once in a while maybe someone will say something, but for the most part our team has just stayed the course, spend our time preparing for the other team... We can sit here and say a whole bunch of things, too, but I think we realize it's really not the point of what this team's all about, what this organization's all about, all the way from the owner of our team, to the head coach of our team, and that trickles down to the players.

"Now other teams may have a different view or perspective of how they want to handle things. When you're representative of the organization like the Patriot team is, that's how we try to conduct ourselves."

**2112** · 01-13-2011, 07:11 AM

JD, I like you dude. I think you're a funny poster. but you are acting like a 12 year old in this thread..lol..I mean seriously. no wonder nobody goes over to that shithole PP anymore.

blaise · 01-13-2011, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

And I wish you'd choke on an AIDS-filled penis.

Oh, BTW, take a look at the Great Gazoo Peyton Manning. You want to see someone who whines to the refs like a bitch? Every ****ing play that doesn't go his way, he throws his hands up in the air and gives them Peyton Face.

Come on dude, are you denying that Brady cries for a flag when he's hit? He does it all the time. He's a great QB, and I hope the Pats beat the Jets but Brady definitely campaigns for flags a lot.

**BigRichard** · 01-13-2011, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

He's unshuttupable.

The good thing about all this is that it helps make the game more interesting. I was just about to stop watching football altogether, but I think I'll dial this one up just to see Rex order his squad to take a team leak on the Pats logo.

FAX

What happens when an unshuttupable fatass comes into contact with a Belichikian force? Does a large wormhole open up in Gillette Stadium? Does the world suddenly implode?

**2112** · 01-13-2011, 07:18 AM

JD with a complete meltdown in this thread

this might get real fun!

Hey, can you neg rep me again for bruising your sensitive vagina?

Deberg_1990 · 01-13-2011, 07:21 AM

Rex is nearly a carbon copy of his dad with the Eagles 20 years ago. He used to spout the same rhetoric as well and never won any hardware to back it up.

**Bane** · 01-13-2011, 07:26 AM

I really didn't have a dog in this fight at first but after seeing SuckMarte mumble some kinda of gravel mouthed bullshit that I really didn't understand (had to get on espn.com to find out wtf he said),my views have changed.I hope the Pats hang 50 on them and rub the Jets vagina's in it all day long and make them look like the frauds they are.

**2112** · 01-13-2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane

I really didn't have a dog in this fight at first but after seeing SuckMarte mumble some kinda of gravel mouthed bullshit that I really didn't understand (had to get on espn.com to find out wtf he said),my views have changed.I hope the Pats hang 50 on them and rub the Jets vagina's in it all day long and make them look like the frauds they are.

It's a good thing Im not JD or I would be going hysterical right now pounding my keyboard and hoping you would die in a fire over those comments.

Like I said earlier in this thread, the Jets talked shit about Bradys wife leading up to that last game. they got their asses kicked and are now crying about getting their asses kicked?

I personally hate all the shit talking and wish they would just stfu. but Im not sure thats ever gonna happen.

Spott · 01-13-2011, 07:38 AM

The Pats are probably going to beat them by a few touchdowns, but if probably won't stop Ryan from talking. If 45-3 didn't shut him up, I doubt any other losses will.

Amnorix · 01-13-2011, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

This is the last I'll say on it, but there is no way you can make that statement. If it had zero to do with it, they wouldn't have done it. I'm not saying it's why they won their SBs. Just saying they're cheaters.

They violated a rule, were caught, and were punished. It was three years ago, and their winning percentage post-being-caught (under BB) is higher than it was pre-being-caught.

Feel free to hold it against them forever, that's fine, but if you think they were the only ones doing that kind of thing, you are certainly very much mistaken.

Amnorix · 01-13-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Yes he is. I can't remember what game it was, but sometime last year he got sacked, whined and cried to the ref for a flag and then pumped his fist when he finally got it. And then him trying to outrun Suzy Kolber for a postgame interview was a complete bitch move too. **** that guy, I wish Pollard would've ended his career.

Stay classy my man. Stay classy.

**2112** · 01-13-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

They violated a rule, were caught, and were punished. It was three years ago, and their winning percentage post-being-caught (under BB) is higher than it was pre-being-caught.

Feel free to hold it against them forever, that's fine, but if you think they were the only ones doing that kind of thing, you are certainly very much mistaken.

Look, you have to admit that there have not been any amazing 2nd half adjustments by mumbles since the cameras were taken away. and you can try and justify it all you want, but the bottom line is they havent won a super bowl since 2004. and had they still had cameras during that Giants super bowl and knew what plays were coming I doubt the Giants come back in that game.

Amnorix · 01-13-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by D2112

Look, you have to admit that there have not been any amazing 2nd half adjustments by mumbles since the cameras were taken away, and you can try and justify it all you want, but the bottom line is they havent won a super bowl since 2004. and had they still had cameras during that Giants super bowl and knew what plays were coming I doubt the Giants come back in that game.

This actually proves that you don't know what you're talking about.

1. The filming of signals couldn't possibly be done, processed, analyzed and then fed back into BB to make analytical use of by halftime for use in the second half. It's just not feasible.

2. Didn't win a Super Bowl? Yeah, they just had an undefeated season and then lost a Super Bowl with some very lucky/fluky plays went against them. Which I have no problem with. Everyone can use some luck, and the Giants played completely out of their minds that game. They were the better team that day. But it's nto like the Patriots have really struggled since the start of 2007 when all this came out. Obviously that's not remotely true.

3. I don't remember the exact details of the game in terms of score changes, but it was neck and neck throughout and the Giants only came back from one score down at the end. Compare to, say, the AFCC game against the Colts, PRE-SPYGATE, when the Colts roared back in the 2nd half after being down 17 points or whatever at halftime to win.

You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

**2112** · 01-13-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

This actually proves that you don't know what you're talking about.

1. The filming of signals couldn't possibly be done, processed, analyzed and then fed back into BB to make analytical use of by halftime for use in the second half. It's just not feasible.

Dude! they were filming the Rams walk through before the Super bowl in 2001. did you know that? it wasnt just the games they were video taping. and whats makes you think theyre gonna tip their hat on what they know in the first half anyways?

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

2. Didn't win a Super Bowl? Yeah, they just had an undefeated season and then lost a Super Bowl with some very lucky/fluky plays went against them. Which I have no problem with. Everyone can use some luck, and the Giants played completely out of their minds that game. They were the better team that day. But it's nto like the Patriots have really struggled since the start of 2007 when all this came out. Obviously that's not remotely true.

Please, their recent performances in big games have not been all that good. dont you think? Giants super bowl.the Ravens in the playoffs last year? that was unheard of before the cameras were taken away. I wont mension the Colts game because it was 2006.

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

3. I don't remember the exact details of the game in terms of score changes, but it was neck and neck throughout and the Giants only came back from one score down at the end. Compare to, say, the AFCC game against the Colts, PRE-SPYGATE, when the Colts roared back in the 2nd half after being down 17 points or whatever at halftime to win.

You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

You got me on the Colts game. that was the 2006 season. then what happened in that game?

Chiefnj2 · 01-13-2011, 08:11 AM

Rex is a smart guy.

Everyone is talking about him. What he said, what he justifies. That's exactly, 100% what he wants. Get the media attention on him, and not the players. Don't focus on the whopping they took a few weeks back and the possible cause of it. Don't focus on Sanchez being shaky in New England. Focus on him so his players get off easily.

He's playing the national media.

Amnorix · 01-13-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by D2112

Dude! they were filming the Rams walk through before the Super bowl in 2001. did you know that? it wasnt just the games they were video taping. and whats makes you think theyre gonna tip their hat on what they know in the first half anyways?

I love it!!

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The Boston Herald sports writer who reported the New England Patriots taped a pre-Super Bowl walk-through by the St. Louis Rams in 2002 said he will regret the erroneous story for the rest of his life.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3398828

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Originally Posted by Boston Herald

On Feb. 2, 2008, the Boston Herald reported that a member of the New England Patriots' video staff taped the St. Louis Rams' walk-through on the day before Super Bowl XXXVI. While the Boston Herald based its Feb. 2, 2008, report on sources that it believed to be credible, we now know that this report was false, and that no tape of the walk-through ever existed

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3395152

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Originally Posted by D2112

Please, their recent performances in big games have not been all that good. dont you think? Giants super bowl.the Ravens in the playoffs last year? that was unheard of before the cameras were taken away. I wont mension the Colts game because it was 2006.

So the 16 games they won to complete a perfect season, with pressure mounting, those weren't big games? The divisional round playoff game wasn't a big game in 2007? The AFC Championship Game in 2007 wasn't a big game? Oh, right, they WON those, so they weren't. It was helmet-catch by now-out-of-football David Tyree and Eli Manning escaping by the skin of his teeth from a fourth down sack -- they lost that so that's a big game. The rest weren't.

The game on MNF when they blew the Jets doors out to seize absolutely control of the AFC East and the entire AFC, getting the #1 seed? That wasn't a big game either of course. Because, you know, they won that one.

2008. Brady's knee

2009. A deeply flawed team with a fair number of character issues. Hell, they went only 10-6 against a pretty soft schedule, and then got blown out at home. It just wasn't a very good team.

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Originally Posted by D2112

You got me on the Colts game. that was the 2006 season. then what happened in that game?

The Colts played better.

You can't really upset me with this stuff. My father lived to be in his 70s and was a die hard sports fan, especially football and baseball. By the time the Red Sox and Patriots were winning Championships, he didn't know his own name, and died soon thereafter. I've lived to see multiple championships by every Boston sports team there is, except the Bruins who I don't care about anyway.

But you're clearly chock full of incorrect "facts". The Rams taping is like the icing on the cake to prove that.

01-12-2011, 10:12 PM
Nzoner a haw haw haw Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MIZZOU Casino cash: $26365802	*I hope the Pats beat the ever living sht out of the J-E-T-S this Sunday. Hey Rex and gang when you finally sport some hardware,then run your mouth if you must. Rex Ryan offers no apology for Cromartie's comments on Brady cromartie_0112.jpgFOXBORO -- Jets coach Rex Ryan just finished his conference call with the New England media and offered no apologizes for his cornerback Antonio Cromartie, who in an interview with the New York Daily News used a crude slur to label Tom Brady. "We're not apologizing for anything," said Ryan. "Did we vote [Brady] to be the starting quarterback in the Pro Bowl? Yes we did. Did we vote him for the NFL Player of the Year? Yeah we did, so there's plenty of respect but we don't have to be all lovey dovey and say, 'Oh he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.' We have a right to our opinion and a comment like that, it's no big deal. A guy makes a comment, big deal." Unlike Bill Belichick, who doesn't like his players giving bulletin board material to opposing teams, Ryan doesn't have a problem with it. "In this country you're allowed to have opinions and all that kind of stuff," Ryan said. "Obviously as an organization we respect Tom Brady, there's no question about it. But hey, is there dislike between us and Brady, and Brady against the Jets? Of course there is. Am I going to punish Cromartie for saying something or whatever? No. I know one thing, we respect New England but we don't fear them. A comment like that, it just [shows] that they're the enemy." In the Daily News article, Cromartie said that the Jets took exception when Brady threw a fourth-quarter touchdown and pointed to the Jets sidelines during the Patriots 45-3 win in Week 13. "We see that a lot. He does that a lot," said Cromartie. "That's the kind of guy he is. We really don't give a damn, to tell you the truth." Cromartie said that he "hates" both Brady and the Patriots. "Everything is personal with me and the Patriots," said Cromartie, who was a rookie with San Diego when the Patriots overcame a 21-13 fourth-quarter deficit to beat the Chargers, 24-21, in the Divisional round of the playoffs in 2006. "So I really don't care. I don't have too much to say about them. I'm just ready to play ball on Sunday." Cromartie also gave a little hint for Sunday's game plan on how to stop Brady and his receivers. "If I beat the (expletive) out of his receivers, he can't throw the ball," Cromartie said. When asked if that was indeed the Jets game plan, Ryan said that the Jets players didn't get the game plan until today. Ryan is a trash-talking coach and his players follow his lead. "I think maybe they do follow my lead in the fact that, you know what, we can say what's on our mind or whatever," said Ryan. "I don't say whatever we do don't say this or don't say that. We're a transparent organization. We let our guys speak and we don't try to tell them what to say and what not to say." _________________________________________________________________ BRADY's RESPONSE**...I love the last paragraph Much like his coach, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady isn't about to get into a war of words with anyone on the Jets this week. Brady spoke to the large media assembly at his locker this morning and was asked if he had any response to the obscenity-laced comments made about him by Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie. "I've been called worse," Brady said when informed that Cromartie called him an [expletive]. "I'm sure there's a long list of people that feel that way but he's a good player, [Darrelle] Revis is a great player. They've got a great secondary. They're one of the best defenses we face. We're going to spend a lot of time preparing for them. "What they're capable of doing over there, shutting down the Colts offense like they did, was pretty impressive because we know how good that offense is, but we're going to get ready to play." Brady was also asked about pointing at the sidelines after big plays and other so-called "antics" as described by Jets coach Rex Ryan earlier in the week. "I'm an emotional player, so it's all in the spirit of the game and the competition," Brady said. "I don't know [if there's anything to Ryan's observations], he can probably answer that better than I could." Brady was asked if it was a little more fun to face a team where there is strong dislike on both sides. "Is it more fun? It's always more satisfying to win," Brady said. "Especially in games like this, not that you need more satisfaction to win in a game like this because it's the biggest game we played all season and I'm always satisfied when we win. I think there's certainly big games that we had against them. The last game at home was a very big game, that was very satisfying, so this one will be satisfying also if we win." Regarding all the talk coming out of Jets camp this week, Brady wasn't fazed in the least. "We're spending our time getting ready to play," Brady said. "I don't think we're spending our time figuring out what we can do to combat what people may say about us. Not everybody has great things to say about our team, or our organization, or certain players. And that's kind of the way it's always been so... we're just going to do our talking on the field. I think that's what we've always chosen to do." Brady said the outcome of Sunday's game will determine if all the talk had any effect. We'll see," he said. "We'll see on Sunday afternoon at 7:30 p.m. That's when everybody will be able to tell whether it played a role or not. We'll have to wait and see." The Patriots quarterback was also asked about comments made earlier in the week by Ryan that questioned Brady's commitment to studying the game. "I do what my coach asks me to do and however he feels I need to prepare, he'll let me know," Brady said. "We try to win games, you know? Look at what we've accomplished over 10 years and I think that speaks to the whole preparation of our team. That's why we play, we play to win games more so than anything else. You're not trying to do anything other than win. The goal of playing football is to win, every time you take the field, score more points than the other team, however you need to get that done, that's what you need to do..." "We don't engage in it very often," Brady said about all the pregame talk. "Every once in a while maybe someone will say something, but for the most part our team has just stayed the course, spend our time preparing for the other team... We can sit here and say a whole bunch of things, too, but I think we realize it's really not the point of what this team's all about, what this organization's all about, all the way from the owner of our team, to the head coach of our team, and that trickles down to the players. "Now other teams may have a different view or perspective of how they want to handle things. When you're representative of the organization like the Patriot team is, that's how we try to conduct ourselves."
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01-13-2011, 07:21 AM	#65
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $154454	Rex is nearly a carbon copy of his dad with the Eagles 20 years ago. He used to spout the same rhetoric as well and never won any hardware to back it up.
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01-13-2011, 07:26 AM	#66
Bane C.H.I.E.F.S Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: **** your face Casino cash: $10005055	I really didn't have a dog in this fight at first but after seeing SuckMarte mumble some kinda of gravel mouthed bullshit that I really didn't understand (had to get on espn.com to find out wtf he said),my views have changed.I hope the Pats hang 50 on them and rub the Jets vagina's in it all day long and make them look like the frauds they are.
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01-13-2011, 07:38 AM	#68
Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $-777600	The Pats are probably going to beat them by a few touchdowns, but if probably won't stop Ryan from talking. If 45-3 didn't shut him up, I doubt any other losses will.
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01-13-2011, 08:11 AM	#74
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Rex is a smart guy. Everyone is talking about him. What he said, what he justifies. That's exactly, 100% what he wants. Get the media attention on him, and not the players. Don't focus on the whopping they took a few weeks back and the possible cause of it. Don't focus on Sanchez being shaky in New England. Focus on him so his players get off easily. He's playing the national media. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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