Football And The Draftabulators Take One Up The Rectum - Page 5

BigCatDaddy · 02-05-2011, 08:52 AM

DALLAS -- Top draft choice, top rookie.

St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford won The Associated Press 2010 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award on Friday.

The first overall selection in last year's draft, Bradford guided the Rams from the embarrassment of a 1-15 record to a 7-9 mark. In the weak NFC West, that was good enough to contend for the division title; St. Louis lost out on a tiebreaker to Seattle.

"I think the more I'm out there, the more comfortable I become," Bradford said. "It's been like that all year. There's been some ups, there's been some downs, but I feel like for the most part I've learned from my mistakes each week. I think the game's stating to slow down a little bit, but I really still have a long way to go before I'm as comfortable as I want to be."

The voters certainly were comfortable with Bradford's passing and leadership.

He earned 44 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the league. Only two other rookies received votes: Tampa Bay wide receiver Mike Williams earned four, and Pittsburgh center Maurkice Pouncey had two.

Bradford is the fourth quarterback since 2004 to win the award. Before that, no quarterbacks had won it.

"If you asked me before the season, I probably wouldn't have said that we would have thrown the ball as much," Bradford said. "As a quarterback, you love to throw the football. So the fact that our coaching staff feels comfortable with the ball in my hands just gives me confidence. It makes me feel very good about going out there on Sundays."

Health was one of the major questions about Bradford when he came out of college.

He won the 2008 Heisman Trophy as a redshirt sophomore, when the Sooners lost to Florida for the national championship, then decided to stay at Oklahoma another season. It was cut short by an early shoulder injury and he barely played in 2009. Still, Bradford so impressed pro scouts in postseason workouts that he was a consensus No. 1 pick.

The questions about his durability remained, and he answered them by taking every snap this season. He threw 590 passes, completing 60 percent for 18 touchdowns and 15 interceptions.

"I take a lot in that, especially coming off the shoulder injury last year and knowing that there were a lot of questions about my durability, about my ability to take hits in this league," Bradford said. "So the fact that I've been able to take every snap with this offense, I do take a lot of pride in that."

Bradford became the starter in training camp and never looked over that shoulder. Coach Steve Spagnuolo and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur placed their faith in him, and he came through like, well, a rookie of the year.

It didn't begin well -- Bradford threw three interceptions and was sacked twice in a 17-13 loss to Arizona. But he began to hit his stride in midseason, at one point going four straight games and five of six without being picked off.

His best performances came in a 36-33 win over Denver, when he had three TD passes and a season-best 308 yards through the air, and in a 20-10 win over Carolina that featured 25-of-32 passing and two touchdowns.

"He's obviously extremely talented, and I think he works his fanny off to make sure that he does the right things and masters the game plan," said Shurmur, now the head coach in Cleveland. "So to say I would be surprised, I would say no.

"To be thankful that he is what he is, I would say yes."

Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger was the first quarterback to win Offensive Rookie of the Year, in 2004, followed by Tennessee's Vince Young in 2006 and Atlanta's Matt Ryan in 2008.

Williams, a fourth-round pick (101 overall) from Syracuse, had 65 catches for 964 yards and 11 touchdowns this season. Pouncey, the rare offensive lineman to collect votes, was a standout in helping the Steelers win the AFC North title.

Marcellus · 02-06-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No, the story is that I never called anyone names, trying to actually debate civilly, but got fed up with being called names by the dumbasses and eventually responded in kind.

I wasn't calling you out as an instigator in any of it.

Others however have fueled the fire.

BigCatDaddy · 02-06-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

You have the rep bar of a young bull. Damn varicose veins are holding me back from a victory lap on your face.

I think it would help if they also treated everyone else the way the treat each other. For example I saw a post ther other day where Dane disagreed with Hamas and it went something like this

"While you know I respect your vast superior football intellect I disagree in this situation..."

anyone else with that same opinion but a "DUB" then it's

"You need to stick your face in that big bag of dog shit you are holding in that pic you moron".

BigCatDaddy · 02-06-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No, the story is that I never called anyone names, trying to actually debate civilly, but got fed up with being called names by the dumbasses and eventually responded in kind.

Same story here and probably with many others.

**Dave Lane** · 02-06-2011, 10:33 AM

I agree its time to let the draftabulator stuff go. The real problem with them was they presented themselves as so certain that any other voice had to be shouted down. I took my share of abuse, but really it doesn't matter, it makes no difference to me if I was right or wrong in the end, what should matter is having some fun speculating of possible directions for the Chiefs. The draftabulators really made it not fun to have a different opinion. For that reason many people held a grudge.

I think this season was great in that maybe we can realize that no one has a better idea than anyone else, some of it is just luck and intangibles that are impossible even for people paid 100's of thousands a year to discern.

milkman · 02-06-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I wasn't calling you out as an instigator in any of it.

Others however have fueled the fire.

The point is, and the reality is, that there are instigators on both sides.

For anyone to suggest that it's all one side or the other, or even that the majority is on one side of the other, is biased.

BigCatDaddy · 02-06-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Hmmm....isn't that exactly what you did right here?

No, I typically just state my opinions and present them as such with the chance that I might be wrong. I stated all the positives and negatives about Bradford and said the negatives aren't a concern and he will be fine. Even the positives coming in about Bradford for shit upon by most of the DB. I think someone else coined the phrase they would shit on a gold brick if given the opportunity.

BigCatDaddy · 02-06-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The point is, and the reality is, that there are instigators on both sides.

For anyone to suggest that it's all one side or the other, or even that the majority is on one side of the other, is biased.

I disagree and I value all opinions here as it's been proven everyone is right and wrong some of the time. If someone wants to act like a Dick though just be prepared to be treated as you are one and don't get mad or defensive about it.

I have no beef with you and value your opinion as well especially when it comes to our line. You and Saccapoop do a great job of breaking it down even though I disagree at times with those assesments.

milkman · 02-06-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I disagree and I value all opinions here as it's been proven everyone is right and wrong some of the time. If someone wants to act like a Dick though just be prepared to be treated as you are one and don't get mad or defensive about it.

I have no beef with you and value your opinion as well especially when it comes to our line. You and Saccapoop do a great job of breaking it down.

We'll just have to disagree.

But you and I can agree to discuss opinions without the hate.

keg in kc · 02-06-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The point is, and the reality is, that there are instigators on both sides.

For anyone to suggest that it's all one side or the other, or even that the majority is on one side of the other, is biased.

Since mecca's disappeared, I'd say it's the, ah, I don't know what you call them, true fans who're being the douchebags. Threads like this one are just sad. It comes off like a really insecure guy looking for approval from the cool kids.

Not that we didn't see the same kind of thing the other way when the Jets were winning playoff games. But there seem to be a lot of guys here who're butthurt over meaningless crap from months and years ago.

Let it go, people.

FAX · 02-06-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The point is, and the reality is, that there are instigators on both sides.

For anyone to suggest that it's all one side or the other, or even that the majority is on one side of the other, is biased.

Are you calling me biased?

FAX

BigCatDaddy · 02-06-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

We'll just have to disagree.

But you and I can agree to discuss opinions without the hate.

As should everyone.

Besides this thread did wonders for building my rep status back up

BigCatDaddy · 02-06-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Are you calling me biased?

FAX

I think he is calling you Mr. Biased.

BigCatDaddy · 02-06-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Since mecca's disappeared, I'd say it's the, ah, I don't know what you call them, true fans who're being the douchebags. Threads like this one are just sad. It comes off like a really insecure guy looking for approval from the cool kids.

Not that we didn't see the same kind of thing the other way when the Jets were winning playoff games. But there seem to be a lot of guys here who're butthurt over meaningless crap from months and years ago.

Let it go, people.

Please go read the DP threads and tell me who is the douche bag in those.

The problem is they won't ever change their posting style so it's just going to continue.

FAX · 02-06-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I agree its time to let the draftabulator stuff go. The real problem with them was they presented themselves as so certain that any other voice had to be shouted down. I took my share of abuse, but really it doesn't matter, it makes no difference to me if I was right or wrong in the end, what should matter is having some fun speculating of possible directions for the Chiefs. The draftabulators really made it not fun to have a different opinion. For that reason many people held a grudge.

I think this season was great in that maybe we can realize that no one has a better idea than anyone else, some of it is just luck and intangibles that are impossible even for people paid 100's of thousands a year to discern.

This, right here, is a darn good post deal. And pretty accurate, in my view.

I don't think the "draftabulator" (or whatever) thing will go away any more than the "true fan" deal will, though. Unfortunately.

Besides, Mr. milkman is biased as all get out. I did a post search on the term, "suck rancid dog ball sweat" and the results were about 87% draftabulator.

FAX

**DeezNutz** · 02-06-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Please go read the DP threads and tell me who is the douche bag in those.

I was wrong and admitted it. ****. Why in the hell do I have to continue taking abuse?

02-05-2011, 08:52 AM
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $1479122	And The Draftabulators Take One Up The Rectum DALLAS -- Top draft choice, top rookie. St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford won The Associated Press 2010 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award on Friday. The first overall selection in last year's draft, Bradford guided the Rams from the embarrassment of a 1-15 record to a 7-9 mark. In the weak NFC West, that was good enough to contend for the division title; St. Louis lost out on a tiebreaker to Seattle. "I think the more I'm out there, the more comfortable I become," Bradford said. "It's been like that all year. There's been some ups, there's been some downs, but I feel like for the most part I've learned from my mistakes each week. I think the game's stating to slow down a little bit, but I really still have a long way to go before I'm as comfortable as I want to be." The voters certainly were comfortable with Bradford's passing and leadership. He earned 44 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the league. Only two other rookies received votes: Tampa Bay wide receiver Mike Williams earned four, and Pittsburgh center Maurkice Pouncey had two. Bradford is the fourth quarterback since 2004 to win the award. Before that, no quarterbacks had won it. "If you asked me before the season, I probably wouldn't have said that we would have thrown the ball as much," Bradford said. "As a quarterback, you love to throw the football. So the fact that our coaching staff feels comfortable with the ball in my hands just gives me confidence. It makes me feel very good about going out there on Sundays." Health was one of the major questions about Bradford when he came out of college. He won the 2008 Heisman Trophy as a redshirt sophomore, when the Sooners lost to Florida for the national championship, then decided to stay at Oklahoma another season. It was cut short by an early shoulder injury and he barely played in 2009. Still, Bradford so impressed pro scouts in postseason workouts that he was a consensus No. 1 pick. The questions about his durability remained, and he answered them by taking every snap this season. He threw 590 passes, completing 60 percent for 18 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. "I take a lot in that, especially coming off the shoulder injury last year and knowing that there were a lot of questions about my durability, about my ability to take hits in this league," Bradford said. "So the fact that I've been able to take every snap with this offense, I do take a lot of pride in that." Bradford became the starter in training camp and never looked over that shoulder. Coach Steve Spagnuolo and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur placed their faith in him, and he came through like, well, a rookie of the year. It didn't begin well -- Bradford threw three interceptions and was sacked twice in a 17-13 loss to Arizona. But he began to hit his stride in midseason, at one point going four straight games and five of six without being picked off. His best performances came in a 36-33 win over Denver, when he had three TD passes and a season-best 308 yards through the air, and in a 20-10 win over Carolina that featured 25-of-32 passing and two touchdowns. "He's obviously extremely talented, and I think he works his fanny off to make sure that he does the right things and masters the game plan," said Shurmur, now the head coach in Cleveland. "So to say I would be surprised, I would say no. "To be thankful that he is what he is, I would say yes." Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger was the first quarterback to win Offensive Rookie of the Year, in 2004, followed by Tennessee's Vince Young in 2006 and Atlanta's Matt Ryan in 2008. Williams, a fourth-round pick (101 overall) from Syracuse, had 65 catches for 964 yards and 11 touchdowns this season. Pouncey, the rare offensive lineman to collect votes, was a standout in helping the Steelers win the AFC North title.
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