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Old 12-16-2011, 11:10 AM  
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What do you give up to move up?
Assume for the sake of argument KC wins another game or two and finishes somewhere around 13 in the draft. The top 6 are:

1 Colts 0 16
2 Rams 2 14
3 Vikings 2 14
4 Washington 4 12
5 Panthers 4 12
6 Browns 4 12
7 Dolphins 4 12

The Colts are going with Luck and aren't trading. You want to move up for Barkley and/or Griffin. What do you give up for each of them, and which spot are trying to get to?

I'd offer the Vikings the 2012 1st and 2nd, and 2013 1st for RGIII. I'm not sure about Barkley yet.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:14 PM   #61
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Maybe ... but maybe the would prefer to have a proven/developed NFL WR and not risk Bradford's development by waiting for a rookie WR to learn.

WR's often take the longest to learn and are very risky.

QB,DT and WR are probably the riskiest positions to draft imo.
So your just scared to draft a QB? Is that your obsession with retread rehash?
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:15 PM   #62
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:16 PM   #63
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I'm sure they are pimping Luck to Manning and the fans because they are trying to drive the price up and stay with a broke neck 35 year old QB.
We don't know and it's worth a try.

Either way we end up with A)Luck or B)RGIII and another pick at #10ish.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:17 PM   #64
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Still think Tannehill could be a good QB given a year or 2 on the bench.
I'd take him or Jones with our 10-15 pick. But, with all the reports coming out since the firing of Haley, it seems unlikely a 1st round pick is going to be used on a QB. Pioli seems to think he owes Cassel another chance, or some bullshit.

Have to hope Tannehill falls to our 2nd pick. Doubt it.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:17 PM   #65
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We don't know and it's worth a try.

Either way we end up with A)Luck or B)RGIII and another pick at #10ish.
The Rams will take Matt Kalil before they go after a WR.
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So your just scared to draft a QB? Is that your obsession with retread rehash?
umm ... what?!?!
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:18 PM   #67
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How can they be any more ****ed than not having a playoff win in two decades and not having a Super Bowl appearance in 4 decades?
Exactly!! As a Chiefs fan, it enrages me when I see fans say if Barkley or Griffin are gone by our pick, they would be OK drafting a RT or NT and would rather do that than take the next best QB prospect.

This has been mediocre for years and years, drafting a RT or NT will improve this team only marginally if at all. It`s all about drafting Barkley or Griffin.

Robert Griffin, Matt Barkley or total failure. That`s how we have to approach this draft IMO (well unless Landry Jones or whatever else QB prospect can be considered not far behind those two).
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:18 PM   #68
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I'd take him or Jones with our 10-15 pick. But, with all the reports coming out since the firing of Haley, it seems unlikely a 1st round pick is going to be used on a QB. Pioli seems to think he owes Cassel another chance, or some bullshit.

Have to hope Tannehill falls to our 2nd pick. Doubt it.
2nd round QB aren't worth shit.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:18 PM   #69
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I'd take him or Jones with our 10-15 pick. But, with all the reports coming out since the firing of Haley, it seems unlikely a 1st round pick is going to be used on a QB. Pioli seems to think he owes Cassel another chance, or some bullshit.

Have to hope Tannehill falls to our 2nd pick. Doubt it.

thats what i was afraid of.

big mistake on Pioli's behalf if it happens.
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2nd round QB aren't worth shit.
Drew Brees says hi.
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umm ... what?!?!
Never mind, I read your one of your post wrong, what I was thinking.
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The Rams will take Matt Kalil before they go after a WR.
you don't know that either

I love how people pretend to know everything that is going to happen in the draft each year. DJ won't fall,Dorsey won't be there at 5 blah,blah,blah ... each year we get lectured and it turns out to be shit.

The rams will probably go either WR or OT because Bradford is reaching a critical time and needs to succeed. We don't know what they will do so stop pretending like you do.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:22 PM   #73
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He was the 32 pick which now or one year later would have been a first round pick. Also if Vermeil hadn't traded for Green, he would have been selected at #12.

But history says 2nd round QBs suck major donkey dick. I wouldn't touch one in the 2nd round.
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you don't know that either

I love how people pretend to know everything that is going to happen in the draft each year. DJ won't fall,Dorsey won't be there at 5 blah,blah,blah ... each year we get lectured and it turns out to be shit.

The rams will probably go either WR or OT because Bradford is reaching a critical time and needs to succeed. We don't know what they will do so stop pretending like you do.
I'm sure they are going to take a WR over OL when their #1 drafted QB gets killed at least 3 times a game.
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Great googily-moogily-jumping-jesus. I can't believe that there are still people unwilling to do what it takes to make a move for a franchise QB prospect. Look at the teams in the playoff hunt.
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