Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again.

[Bump]

#5 overall
#3 overall
#11 overall


with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again.

Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle...

And also, who the **** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round?

Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ****ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks.

honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the ****ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

If this team fails this year, they need to get rid of Romeo and switch back to the 4-3.

Cut Jackson, keep Dorsey. Bailey and Hali starting at DE with Houston and DJ as your blitzing OLB.

No.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I wouldn't move away from the 3-4. I'd transition over to what the Texans and Cowboys run.

Poe would probably be better as a 1-gap NT than 2 gap. He's more of a penetrating type DL anyways. Heck, all of our DL would look better in that type of 3-4.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

The point is that Sanchez is so good that they traded for another great first round QB.

What?

[ChiefsCountry]

Sanchez and Patrick Chung or Tyson Jackson and Cassel. Which draft outcome looks better, of course the same one that did in 2009 on draft day.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

One game in and our whole team sucks. How many rushing yards did they get again ?????

[Marcellus]

I could be wrong here but I don't think the D-Line is the issue with the defense.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Considering I didn't want RAC in the first place?

No. Not overreacting at all.

Well, I'll wait to jump off a bridge until the defense plays poorly with it's starters actually playing football on gameday.

We lost because Flowers, Brown, Lewis and Menzie all got hurt and Matt Ryan picked on Reeves and Washington all day.

I don't think you can fault Romeo for all of that...he doubled Jones after his fast start...what else could have been done?

I bet this defense still ends the year in the top ten.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They weren't even in the same draft, so why compare the two?

You're all kinds of stupid.

You are right. It was Josh Freeman and he's so much better.

Should we have taken Tebow or Clausen over Berry because we had a top 5 pick?

[L.A. Chieffan]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

The point is that Sanchez is so good that they traded for another great first round QB.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I wouldn't move away from the 3-4. I'd transition over to what the Texans and Cowboys run.

Also acceptable. It's ridiculous to run a scheme where your players have to learn to not use their skills. How about not running a scheme where your #11 overall pick doesn't need three years to unlearn his position? How about a scheme where Dorsey and Poe and Bailey can use their natural strength and speed to get pressure, instead of a scheme where they have to shelve those abilities in favor of a mental strategy?

It's reeruned.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You can't even get a sentence out without contradicting yourself.

It doesn't have anything AT ALL to do with Sanchez, other than that his name was #2 on everybody's board.

If Flacco had been #2, we'd be talking about Flacco.

You're a moron.

I fully understand.

Should we have taken Tebow or Clausen over Berry because we had a top 5 pick? They were the #2 ranked QBs in that draft.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

One game in and our whole team sucks. How many rushing yards did they get again ?????

Who gives a flying ****? They could have run the ball zero times and still won. The defense couldn't stop the pass at all. They scored at will through the air.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Bump

#5 overall
#3 overall
#11 overall


with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again.

Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle...

And also, who the **** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round?

Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ****ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks.

honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the ****ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course.

Rushing 3 or 4 guys and letting Matt Ryan have all day to throw with no pressure was a joke. Our Secondary and LB's looked like the Keystone Cops running around in circles. Atlanta's receivers had all kinds of openings of 3-4 feet minimum

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I don't get it. The d-line was probably the strongest area yesterday. They were very good. Turner got like thirty something yards. Ryan never got off a deep pass even though we only brought 3-4 guys all day. Romeo wasn't blitzing very much. I saw him send five guys three times yesterday.

Dorsey might be gone next year but, yesterday was definately not his fault at all. The whole Powe oveer Poe crap is bullshit. Last week it was "poe can't stop the run" and he killed it yesterday. He was in the backfield stopping the run.

This thread is bad.

20 rushes, 67 yds = 3.1ypc = meh, not good when it's only 20 carries in a game.

I'll put it this way, 3.1ypc isn't going to scare OC's away from the run game. What did effect this game was the fact the Falcons score on short field possessions. That means this defense got off easy in terms of PG stats. It was a lot worse than stats indicate, mugs.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Should we have taken Tebow or Clausen over Berry because we had a top 5 pick?

I must have missed where Berry is a ****ing defensive lineman that can't rush the ****ing passer...