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Old 10-08-2012, 10:31 PM  
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Is there ANY chance that Quinn can become another Rich Gannon-like QB for KC?
He's a 1st round pick. He has to have talent. Maybe he's matured and learned how to be a starting QB while holding the clipboard? He has better mobility than Cassel. He has a much better arm than Cassel. I'll bet he has better accuracy than Cassel. He needs to have better decision making and leadership than Cassel, which won't take much. That's a pretty low bar. Can Quinn shock the world and become a worthy starter? We can wish, can't we? I think the odds are 1 in 765.... maybe 764.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:30 AM   #61
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Yeah... So here's what he's asking:
Will Quinn be the next Gannon?

Let's see here, so he's asking if there's a chance that Quinn will ride the bench for a while, then come in and show more talent than the starter.
(check)
Then he'll win a few games and show some talent.
Then the starter will come back from injury and suck balls.
Then the Chiefs will let him go via free agency to the raiders who will ride him all the way to the Super Bowl. **** Yea.
Gannon didn't show any more (or less) talent than Grbac did.

They were nearly identical in EVERY category, including W/L.

The defense and running game carried that team, just like every other year under Marty.

Gannon's tenure here is pure hype and nothing more.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:31 AM   #62
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I don't see how anybody can say there's no chance. Prior to this year he had played in a total of 14 NFL games on a bad team with crap coaching. He looked really good in limited action yesterday. I suspect he'll have a tendency to make several great plays followed by a morale-crushing interception, but if he just leaves out the interception part he could be good.
I don't get that either.
He has a grand total of 12 NFL starts.
That's way too small a sample size for a former #1.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:41 AM   #63
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There is no ****ing way Quinn can be worse. What, is he going to throw 20 int's instead of 14? He can throw the ball past 15 yards right; then he is automatically better than Cassel.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:41 AM   #64
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Best thing that can happen to this franchise is Quinn get hurt and they HAVE to back to Cassel...
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:42 AM   #65
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Gannon didn't show any more (or less) talent than Grbac did.

They were nearly identical in EVERY category, including W/L.

The defense and running game carried that team, just like every other year under Marty.

Gannon's tenure here is pure hype and nothing more.
I don't remember that. I remember Grbac making boneheaded decision after bondeheaded decision and the only good year he had was his last here.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:43 AM   #66
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If anyone remembers Gannon when he played for the Vikings or Redskins remembers that Gannon wasn't Gannon then either. He blew chunks. Hell Gannon couldn't beat out Wade Wilson, Tommy Kramer or Sean Salisbury when he was with the Vikings. He was only with the Redskins for a cup of coffee.
I suppose anything is possible for Quinn. He can't be any worse than Cassel. I hope.
Thank you!

This is what drives me nuts when people talk about Gannon. The guy never did a whole lot until that 1997 season after Grbac went down.


As for Quinn, my thoughts are that Quinn should have already been given a shot. It should not take an injury to get him on the field. I'm holding out hope that he hasn't really gotten a chance to develop/mature and KC has plenty of talent on offense for him to succeed.

Best case scenario is that he does well and leads the team to the playoffs. Worse case scenario, he sucks and we draft a QB high (which is actually not worse if said QB turns out to be a good one). And if Quinn sucks, that just shows that Pioli is an idiot for not bringing in competition for Cassel. Whatever happened to drafting a QB every year?
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:45 AM   #67
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Gannon didn't show any more (or less) talent than Grbac did.

They were nearly identical in EVERY category, including W/L.

The defense and running game carried that team, just like every other year under Marty.

Gannon's tenure here is pure hype and nothing more.
Didn't Gannon win MVP under Gruden?
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:45 AM   #68
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The absolute worst thing for this franchise is for Quinn to come in, be average and play 500 ball.
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The absolute worst thing for this franchise is for Quinn to come in, be average and play 500 ball.
the amount of stupid running through this board is mind boggling.
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the amount of stupid running through this board is mind boggling.
Lets hope for 7 wins so that Pioli, Crennel, Daboll and Quinn all return next year. That would be super!!!!!!
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I don't remember that. I remember Grbac making boneheaded decision after bondeheaded decision and the only good year he had was his last here.
It's been debunked many, many times.

1997:
Grbac was 8-2 as a starter, Gannon 5-1.
Grbac completed 57% of his passes, Gannon 56%
Grbac had 11 TDs and 6 INTs. Gannon had 7 TDs and 4 INTs.
Grbac had a 55yd long and 6.2 ypa. Gannon had a 47yd long and 6.5ypa.

1998:
Grbac regressed horribly (2-4 as starter, 5 TD, 12 INT, 52% completion) but Gannon was the SAME GUY.
58%, 10 TD, 6 INT, 6.5ypa.

Gannon's stint here is PURE HYPE.
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Lets hope for 7 wins so that Pioli, Crennel, Daboll and Quinn all return next year. That would be super!!!!!!
No, let's hope for 2.
Because we're certain that with only 2 wins Clark will clean house.
And it'll be awesome to have key free agents defecting to other teams.

That'll be peachy keen.
On to the next rebuild!
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The absolute worst thing for this franchise is for Quinn to come in, be average and play 500 ball.
Well, yeah, there is that possibility. I hope for plays great and we get to the playoffs or he plays bad and we suck. No in between.
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