Chiefs Schefter- "Barkley Late first-round pick" Smith scouts "aren't completely wowed" - Page 5

**ChiefGator** · 12-06-2012, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't get this value shit.

You know whats valuable? A franchise QB.

Quoted for truth.

Buckweath · 12-05-2012, 10:21 PM

CHiefs fans WHO want anything else than to draft the best available QB with our first round pick are DUMB DUMB DUMB.

suds79 · 12-05-2012, 10:21 PM

Matt Barkley becomes less & less intriguing to me by the day.

I've simply had my fill of weak armed Chiefs QBs. It's as simple as that.

Right now give anybody over Barkley.

Geno, Wilson, Bray, Glennon. I just want to see something different.

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:22 PM

With all this draft stuff popping up, lets play a little game. Name this player, based on his pre draft analysis.

POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary.

NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature.

**hometeam** · 12-05-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

With all this draft stuff popping up, lets play a little game. Name this player, based on his pre draft analysis.

POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary.

NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature.

I googled it~

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

I googled it~

Made a thread out of it, keep your trap shut.

**Dave Lane** · 12-06-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

With all this draft stuff popping up, lets play a little game. Name this player, based on his pre draft analysis.

POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary.

NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature.

As a bit of a spoiler he also includes past QBs not just this years crop. I think this seems close to Tyler Wilson in spots and Smith in spots. I'm a big Smith fan but Wilson is gaining traction with me too.

ChiefsCountry · 12-05-2012, 10:26 PM

Smith has the physical attributes. Barkley has the intangables. We really can't go wrong with either one.

**hometeam** · 12-05-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Smith has the physical attributes. Barkley has the intangables. We really can't go wrong with either one.

Intangibles can suck it.

Buckweath · 12-05-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Smith has the physical attributes. Barkley has the intangables. We really can't go wrong with either one.

Does Cassell have the intangibles?

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:30 PM

Say you draft Teo. Whats the absolute best scenario you can get out of that? Can a MLB Ted backer in a 34 scheme carry you to where you wanna go?

**RealSNR** · 12-05-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Say you draft Teo. Whats the absolute best scenario you can get out of that? Can a MLB Ted backer in a 34 scheme carry you to where you wanna go?

I don't know. I'd like to phone a friend on that one.

Call my buddy Tyson Jackson, Regis.

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I don't know. I'd like to phone a friend on that one.

Call my buddy Tyson Jackson, Regis.

I'm just amazed at this shitty line of thinking.

You want a leader on defense? Fine, I get that. It's a big concern for me.

But you don't spend a top 3 pick on a ****ing player that will play a position that's probably the 7 or 8 most important on your defense.

Frankie · 12-05-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Say you draft Teo. Whats the absolute best scenario you can get out of that? Can a MLB Ted backer in a 34 scheme carry you to where you wanna go?

If (big IF) Te'o is what they say he is (and not a Notre Dame lust hype by the media) then yes. Provided we use the top of the 2nd on Murray, Wilson, or maybe even Bray. Our LB corps will be next to none. and we still get a QB we can count on panning out well. I've been very encouraged by what Dungy said about Murray and what I saw of him in the Alabama game. Granted I didn't see the entire game. Stat-wise too he compares well with Geno. See attached.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

If (big IF) Te'o is what they say he is

Te'o isn't Ray Lewis.

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis.

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher.

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson.

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.

12-05-2012, 10:21 PM	#2
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	CHiefs fans WHO want anything else than to draft the best available QB with our first round pick are DUMB DUMB DUMB.
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suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	Matt Barkley becomes less & less intriguing to me by the day. I've simply had my fill of weak armed Chiefs QBs. It's as simple as that. Right now give anybody over Barkley. Geno, Wilson, Bray, Glennon. I just want to see something different.
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12-05-2012, 10:22 PM	#4
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-675936	With all this draft stuff popping up, lets play a little game. Name this player, based on his pre draft analysis. POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary. NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature.
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12-05-2012, 10:26 PM	#8
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12-05-2012, 10:30 PM	#11
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-675936	Say you draft Teo. Whats the absolute best scenario you can get out of that? Can a MLB Ted backer in a 34 scheme carry you to where you wanna go?
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