Chiefs Gretz weighs in on the GM situation - Page 5

FloridaMan88 · 12-30-2012, 09:19 PM

Another solid write-up from Bob Gretz (hell must have frozen over for me to type that):

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...lark-hunt.html

Column: Defining Moment Ahead For Clark Hunt

I would not begin to even think that I could read the mind of Clark Hunt and what his plans are for the Hunt Family football team.

Chiefs Nation has their fingers, toes, even eyes crossed that New Year’s Eve 2012 will be the moment when the madness and losing of the Pioli Era will end and a new future will be laid out for the football team.

Two months ago, my personal opinion was that Hunt didn’t have the guts to admit his mistake and fire Pioli. Now, after everything that happened with his franchise over the last four months, I’m not sure Hunt has the guts not to make a big change. How could he possibly ignore what’s gone down with the Chiefs and why they are the NFL’s worst team in 2012?

Well, let me assure you he can, and he might. I don’t think it’s a lead-pipe cinch that the hurricane of change roils through the franchise. The fans and media think that Hunt has to be embarrassed and angry with the performance of his team on the field under Pioli’s direction. They are now 23-42 after losing Sunday in Denver, some 19 games under .500 and far removed from being a championship contender.

I do believe Hunt wants a winning team. What I don’t know, and we all don’t know, is just how important winning is on his radar screen. There may be other areas and avenues of the organization that rank higher on his list of goals. That remains a mystery.

Or, at least it will be in the shadows until he explains what his immediate plans are for the organization. If he keeps Pioli, it will provide everyone with an emphatic answer that winning is not the most important item on his agenda.

A 2-14 season cries out for some sort of reply from ownership. Firing/retiring Romeo Crennel is not going to be a big enough change. There’s no question the Chiefs coaching staff was not a strong one and that doesn’t just fall at the feet of Crennel, not in an organization where Pioli has his finger in every pie and the willingness to overrule any notion that is not his.

For four years now, we have seen that this fish rots from the head down. Now, Clark Hunt will show us if he was the problem ahead of Pioli.

The immediate future of the team depends on what he decides. This is not just a move about changing the names in the office directory. This franchise must reconnect with its fans. There needs to be profound change in the way business is conducted by the Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, Inc.

A red and gold nation awaits a moment where Clark Hunt makes a decision that shows he understands and he has listened.

But, don’t be surprised if he says he does understand and has listened but is going to keep his general manager while sacrificing his head coach.

Anything is possible.

|Zach| · 12-31-2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Time to the stadium is immaterial. The reason out-of-town ownership sucks shit is that the one who sucks the penis isn't around doing daily shit having to face normal fans and interact with them.

While I think that most people would be cordial, he'd definitely hear about the shit product on the field.

Hanging out in Dallas or Arkansas means that he's removed from all of this.

More than anything work on the little things about his company. Which is toxic and has a shitty ****ing product.

**DeezNutz** · 12-31-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

More than anything work on the little things about his company. Which is toxic and has a shitty ****ing product.

True. Not around enough to understand completely the tenor of the environment, which applies to the employees, as well as the fan base.

**SAUTO** · 12-31-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Time to the stadium is immaterial. The reason out-of-town ownership sucks shit is that the one who sucks the penis isn't around doing daily shit having to face normal fans and interact with them.

While I think that most people would be cordial, he'd definitely hear about the shit product on the field.

Hanging out in Dallas or Arkansas means that he's removed from all of this.

I can see that point about glass. He didn't grow up with the royals.

I think Clark really wants a winner.

We will find out soon
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**SAUTO** · 12-31-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

True. Not around enough to understand completely the tenor of the environment, which applies to the employees, as well as the fan base.

We are hearing about it, people are writing about it. He knows.

if he's not checking into it he is definitely the problem. He doesn't care.

I think he cares
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|Zach| · 12-31-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I can see that point about glass. He didn't grow up with the royals.

I think Clark really wants a winner.

We will find out soon
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The proof is in the pudding.

**SAUTO** · 12-31-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

The proof is in the pudding.

I don't think is done being mixed yet. We will know soon enough
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**gblowfish** · 12-31-2012, 12:16 AM

My biggest fear is, we find out Pioli signed his extension, and Clark is too cheap to buy it out. That would prove money means more to the Hunt Family than winning. We'll see.

|Zach| · 12-31-2012, 12:17 AM

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I don't think is done being mixed yet. We will know soon enough
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lololololololololololol

ChiefsCountry · 12-31-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

True. Not around enough to understand completely the tenor of the environment, which applies to the employees, as well as the fan base.

Then what about the other businesses the Hunts got, Unity Hunt, Hunt Capital, Eastmon Hunt, Hunt Midwest, Columbus Crew, Chicago Bulls, FC Dallas, that is just off the top of my head.

**DeezNutz** · 12-31-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

We are hearing about it, people are writing about it. He knows.

if he's not checking into it he is definitely the problem. He doesn't care.

I think he cares
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His direct contact is Pioli, and thus that's how he's going to get information, first and foremost. Unlike us, he's not dependent on the likes of Babb and Mellinger, and thus he could even avoid a large part of this (or even deem it unnecessary).

Like you said, though, we're going to have a clear answer to his level of give-a-**** tomorrow at 2:00 at the latest.

**DeezNutz** · 12-31-2012, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Then what about the other businesses the Hunts got, Unity Hunt, Hunt Capital, Eastmon Hunt, Hunt Midwest, Columbus Crew, Chicago Bulls, FC Dallas, that is just off the top of my head.

Do you have any idea whether those are great places to work? I don't.

I know that the Chiefs are a ****ing train wreck, though, and Clark has seemed nothing but out of touch about this entire thing to this point.

He has to show his cards tomorrow, though.

tooge · 12-31-2012, 12:20 AM

Well, right now I'm more excited about following the chiefs than I have been since about week 4 of the season. Clark, please don't shit down my neck again

|Zach| · 12-31-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Do you have any idea whether those are great places to work? I don't.

I know that the Chiefs are a ****ing train wreck, though, and Clark has seemed nothing but out of touch about this entire thing to this point.

He has to show his cards tomorrow, though.

Wave a white flag to ChiefsCountry.

We get it. The Hunt Family is doing an awesome job with the Chiefs. Go Chiefs.

**dirk digler** · 12-31-2012, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Time to the stadium is immaterial. The reason out-of-town ownership sucks shit is that the one who sucks the penis isn't around doing daily shit having to face normal fans and interact with them.

While I think that most people would be cordial, he'd definitely hear about the shit product on the field.

Hanging out in Dallas or Arkansas means that he's removed from all of this.

Yep. Let's look at two of the more successful NFL franchises in the Giants and Steelers. Both of the owners show up almost every day and work. Heck Dan Rooney lives in the same neighborhood as the Stadium and walks to every home game.

**SAUTO** · 12-31-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

His direct contact is Pioli, and thus that's how he's going to get information, first and foremost. Unlike us, he's not dependent on the likes of Babb and Mellinger, and thus he could even avoid a large part of this (or even deem it unnecessary).

Like you said, though, we're going to have a clear answer to his level of give-a-**** tomorrow at 2:00 at the latest.

But with everything else going on he should be going around Pioli and talking to others to see how his general manager is running hist part of the business, right?

I hope I'm right buddy, and I might be totally ****ing wrong.
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12-30-2012, 09:19 PM
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