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Old 02-17-2013, 02:39 AM  
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Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?
We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread.

I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins.

He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years.

58.9% comp | 7,920 yards pass | 40 passing TDs | 29 INTS | 1,447 rush yards | 22 rushing TDs |

Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:13 AM   #61
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The Chiefs have the 1st pick of the ****** draft if they miss on it I will be pissed if who they didn't pick has a great season with that pick.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:16 AM   #62
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I want to see our own QBotf prospect from the draft. Not some other teams QB no matter who they are or stats I don't give a **** about. Give us our own god damn quarterback for a change. I don't give a ****. Geno Smith is worth the pick and just to find out what he got is also the intrigue. I will be ****ing pissed if he finds success with some other team when we could have that success for ourselves.
And I'll be pretty cranky if we end up picking someone who turns out to be the next Sanchez and sets the Chiefs back another 4-5 years. It's all a matter of perspective.

Look, I'm all in favor of taking a QB at #1 if the powers that be think that is our best option. In fact, I really hope it happens. I just think that the "QB or bust" mentality is a good way to build a shitty football team.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:17 AM   #63
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What amazes me is that Chiefs fans want to take a college QB prospect with our first pick in the draft without even being willing to consider the possibility that better options might exist.
I've yet to see someone come up with a player other than QB that makes sense for the Chiefs pick at 1-1. ALL the guys at the top have flaws, but for some reason they are glossed over when it's a non-QB. It's bullshit.

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Old 02-17-2013, 10:18 AM   #64
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For sake of answering the question, yes I would.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:20 AM   #65
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And I'll be pretty cranky if we end up picking someone who turns out to be the next Sanchez and sets the Chiefs back another 4-5 years. It's all a matter of perspective.

Look, I'm all in favor of taking a QB at #1 if the powers that be think that is our best option. In fact, I really hope it happens. I just think that the "QB or bust" mentality is a good way to build a shitty football team.
He sure the hell could bust but ya know what? 30 years of retread has ****ing sucked balls. Maybe if he does bust we can take another chance on a even more promicing QB prospect but NOOOOO CHIEFS AND FANS ARE TOO COWARD TO DO SO.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:23 AM   #66
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And I'll be pretty cranky if we end up picking someone who turns out to be the next Sanchez and sets the Chiefs back another 4-5 years. It's all a matter of perspective.

Look, I'm all in favor of taking a QB at #1 if the powers that be think that is our best option. In fact, I really hope it happens. I just think that the "QB or bust" mentality is a good way to build a shitty football team.
Two things:

First, how much more "set back" can this organization possible get? Something like 29 wins in the last SIX YEARS.

Second, even if you don't agree with the above, you realize that your thinking shouldn't be limited to just the QB position, right?

It's not good to miss with an early pick. But I'd much rather miss taking a chance on a franchise-changer than to play it safe (Hi, Tyson Jackson) and miss anyway.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:25 AM   #67
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I voted no, mainly due to the fact that he seems to be regressing rather than progressing. He's not exactly overflowing in intangibles, so I could see things going downhill quickly if he and his team continue to struggle.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:26 AM   #68
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I just think that the "QB or bust" mentality is a good way to build a shitty football team.
It gets you Kyle Boller, but it also get you Joe Flacco.

It gets you Jeff George, but it also gets you Peyton Manning.

It gets you Ryan Leaf, but it also gets you Philip Rivers.

It gets you Akili Smith, but if you turn right around and pick Carson Palmer literally only four years later, you're going to be a lot better off for it.

NFL teams should be pulling the trigger on potential franchise QBs in the first-round at least once a decade. We haven't done it in THREE.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:27 AM   #69
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:28 AM   #70
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:29 AM   #71
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It gets you Kyle Boller, but it also get you Joe Flacco.

It gets you Jeff George, but it also gets you Peyton Manning.

It gets you Ryan Leaf, but it also gets you Philip Rivers.

It gets you Akili Smith, but if you turn right around and pick Carson Palmer literally only four years later, you're going to be a lot better off for it.

NFL teams should be pulling the trigger on potential franchise QBs in the first-round at least once a decade. We haven't done it in THREE.
good, you edited the kyle boller/peyton manning thing.
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Yup 4000 yard passer Carson Palmer is a good pick
Carson Palmer was absolutely worth the #1 pick. The fact that he became something of a GIF factory after a freak knee injury doesn't change that.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:39 AM   #73
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good, you edited the kyle boller/peyton manning thing.
I'd honestly throw Harrington/Stafford in there too, but Stafford is polarizing around here.

However, in between Andre Ware and Joey Harrington, a 12-year period, the Lions sure had lots of success with retreads like Rodney Pete, Erik Kramer, Charlie Batch, Scott Mitchell and Gus Frerotte.

And it was a good thing they passed on Daunte Culpepper (another QB who was piling up insane numbers before a free knee injury) to take Chris Claiborne.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:50 AM   #74
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If we're not expected to draft our own QB at #1, then this is a no brainer. Alas it wont remotely happen.
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He sure the hell could bust but ya know what? 30 years of retread has ****ing sucked balls. Maybe if he does bust we can take another chance on a even more promicing QB prospect but NOOOOO CHIEFS AND FANS ARE TOO COWARD TO DO SO.
A 3rd year ascending borderline top 10 quarterback is a retread?
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