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Old 11-07-2013, 03:46 PM   #1
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So wait a second.....the parents initially left the house without getting their son first? Why didn't he try and save him then?
maybe he was intent on saving his wife and then tried to go back in for the son


it's just a shitty situation
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:47 PM   #2
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maybe he was intent on saving his wife and then tried to go back in for the son


it's just a shitty situation
That may be. But if it's me....I'm telling my wife to go outside and call 911 while I go get my son.

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The parents reportedly escaped the burning house through a rear door in the building when smoke woke them from their sleep and they called 911. They then ran to the front of the house and Ryan Miller was trying to break down the front door as police and firefighters arrived on the scene. Jenne confirmed that he was stunned with a Taser and restrained.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:51 PM   #3
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State Fire Marshal Investigator Scott Stoneberger explained that a firefighter in full gear had attempted to enter the house but the flames were too hot.
If a fireman in full gear won't go in, the stepfather isn't getting in. It's really that simple.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:52 PM   #4
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That may be. But if it's me....I'm telling my wife to go outside and call 911 while I go get my son.
Since he was trying to break down the front door, I'm assuming that the path from the room they woke up in must have been blocked by the fire.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:53 PM   #5
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That may be. But if it's me....I'm telling my wife to go outside and call 911 while I go get my son.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:46 PM   #6
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Oh....and the police are heartless because they didn't try and run into the building themselves to save the kid? **** this bitch.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:55 PM   #7
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18 seconds.
On average, it takes 18 agonizing seconds for a child to die in a fire.


This is one of the few stories posted here that makes me physically ill.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:55 PM   #8
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18 seconds.
On average, it takes 18 agonizing seconds for a child to die in a fire.


This is one of the few stories posted here that makes me physically ill.
Hope your little man is still doing well. This story probably hits a little too close to home.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:03 PM   #9
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I can understand the police actions if the firefighters are actively fighting the fire and someone trying to run back in would interfere with their efforts. If it's just a bunch of people standing around watching a house burn, then let the guy try to get his kid.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:38 PM   #10
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Too many liberal lovers here saying cops should decide what's best for us. If he wanted to go back in that's his choice.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:42 PM   #11
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Too many liberal lovers here saying cops should decide what's best for us. If he wanted to go back in that's his choice.
This n00b is going to fit in nicely with the "red BUT NOT THAT KIND OF RED I'M NOT A COMMUNIST YOU ARE" crowd at CP.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:24 PM   #12
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Too many liberal lovers here saying cops should decide what's best for us. If he wanted to go back in that's his choice.
if it's any consolation, i would definitely let you go back inside a burning building
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:49 PM   #13
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I'm with you, Jimmya, and Big Daddy, and everyone else who said the decision should have been the man's. Yeah, he might have died going in, or the kid might have already been gone, but (and call my old-fashioned) it's a man's purpose in life to try.

Beyond just this instance, this is a problem with tasers, pepper spray, and other less-lethal weapons since their introduction a decade or two ago; instead of having their use replacing lethal force - as they were intended and advertised - their use is in many cases replacing the lack of force.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:35 PM   #14
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All I will say is this....we made heroes and deservedly so, out of the cops and firefighters that ran into the two towers and lost their lives trying to save people they didn't know.

This man was prevented from doing the same for his own son or step son in this case.

I think I have to side with those who say I wouldn't have even given a second thought to going in and saving my Son, even if it meant we both don't come out.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:38 PM   #15
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All I will say is this....we made heroes and deservedly so, out of the cops and firefighters that ran into the two towers and lost their lives trying to save people they didn't know.

This man was prevented from doing the same for his own son or step son in this case.

I think I have to side with those who say I wouldn't have even given a second thought to going in and saving my Son, even if it meant we both don't come out.
No one is giving the father shit for trying to go back in. But demonizing the cops for trying to save another life is ****ing reeruned.
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