Chiefs Bailey Gets 1st Team reps at DE/Stephenson 1st Team Reps at RT - Page 5

SeeingRed · 11-22-2013, 10:48 AM

- DE Tyson Jackson did not practice with the Chiefs on Thursday due to a strained abdominal muscle that he suffered last Sunday night. He also did not practice on Wednesday. Allen Bailey was working with the first team K.C. defense in Jackson's place.

-- RT Eric Fisher did not practice with the Chiefs on Thursday missing his second consecutive practice due to a shoulder injury from last Sunday night's game. There appears to be little chance that he'll play this weekend against San Diego. Donald Stephenson has been taking the reps at right tackle with Fisher out. Geoff Schwartz has also gotten practice time in that position.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...efs-teamreport

milkman · 11-23-2013, 10:27 AM

BTW, Seeing Red, I nearly forgot to ask, when did Umenyoria break DT's single game sack record?

TEX · 11-23-2013, 10:40 AM

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I hated the Fisher pick as much as, or more than, anyone.

He had a terrible first 7 weeks, but has improved with each week since.

This O-Line, in fact, with the exception of Allen, has improved incrementally over that same 3 weeks.

Exactly. Allen, not Fish, is its weakest link.

CallMeSquidwad · 11-23-2013, 10:40 AM

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This is one of the worst debuts for a top 10 pick I can ever recall.

This forum gave up on Poe so quick last year as well

it never ceases to amaze me.

Saccopoo · 11-23-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Exactly. Allen, not Fish, is its weakest link.

*cough*Gabe Jackson*cough*

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It all starts with massive guard Gabe Jackson, who could be just the third Bulldog selected in the first round since 1996 (Derek Sherrod in 2011 and Fletcher Cox in 2012). Guards normally don’t get selected this high in the NFL Draft, but last year the floodgates burst open as three guards were selected in the top 20 spots (Jonathan Cooper at 7, Chance Warmack at 10 and Kyle Long at 20). Many predicted Jackson could’ve been the fourth guard (or even third) selected last year had he come out early, but he stuck around for one more year of cowbell in Starkville.

Jackson is an absolute bulldozer in the ground game but also has some dance in his legs as well in pass protection, not giving up a sack all season in ’12 (against SEC defensive lines, this is quite a feat). He’s also durable: Jackson has started 39 consecutive contests going into ’13. Jackson is far and away the top guard prospect for next year’s draft.

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Jackson is listed at 6’5” 320lbs and he is simply an enormous human being. He is sporting thighs like Earl Campbell at the offensive guard position with incredible strength and power at his disposal.

Jackson is a perfectly solid pass blocker for the college game but his run blocking is what makes him stand out as a player and can get the draft community excited. In goal line and short yardage situations, he is difficult to stop and seems to always create space for the runner to operate even when the opponent has no doubt where the play is going.

Jackson is an extremely wide bodied blocker in the passing game and if he can get his hands on the opponent, it is usually a done deal. He has those long arms so combined with how much space he takes up in the hole, he is difficult to get around. Jackson has long arms and power and has rarely been moved backward due to an opposing bull rush. He is extremely stout in pass protection, so most opponents do not even look at power as an option, but he holds up well against the ones that did.

Despite the size of his legs, Jackson is a decent bender at the knee. He is able to take advantage of the power in his upper body because he is able to get opponents with a rising blow and good pad level. Whether he is pass or run blocking, he is able to keep opponents out of his body with his arms extended after throwing a solid punch.

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NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah notes Mississippi State senior G Gabe Jackson is generating buzz in the scouting community.

"He has outstanding size, strength and awareness," Jeremiah notes. "He has a very firm anchor in pass protection, and he can create movement at the point of attack in the run game."

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One NFL scout who attended Mississippi State practices called senior G Gabe Jackson a "really, really impressive player."

"He is one big and powerful man," the scout added.

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NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah noted his scouting buddies rave about Mississippi State senior G Gabe Jackson.

Jeremiah went on to say Jackson has a "big, powerful base and explosive hands." Many thought the Bulldog offensive lineman would declare for last April's draft, but evaluators won't turn down the chance to break down his film for another year.

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Mississippi State offensive lineman Gabe Jackson, one of the elite guard prospects for the 2014 NFL Draft, has turned in a rock-solid first month for his senior season with the Bulldogs. The 6-4, 335-pounder, known for his ability to drive-block at the point of attack, had five pancake blocks and was named Southeastern Conference Offensive Lineman of the Week following MSU's win over Troy. His power and strength remind many of former Alabama star guard Chance Warmack, who was a first-round pick of the Tennessee Titans in April.

Several NFL scouts were in attendance at Scott Field to evaluate Jackson, according to the Sun Herald, and one "high-ranking and well-respected" scout was apparently blown away by Jackson's performance: "Really, really impressive. He is one big and powerful man."

Bulldogs coach Dan Mullen said Jackson, beyond his natural ability, brings a tireless work ethic to refining the technical craft of guard play. Approach-wise, it's as if Jackson is already in the NFL.

"He's had a great year for us. He's a guy who has started every game that he's been here for. He's continually improved. He really works as a professional. He works at his game, and constantly improving his game, in every aspect of the game," Mullen said. "He has a very serious approach to the game of football, loves it, works at his techniques, his fundamentals. And on top of that, he's a powerful, talented young man."

Nightfyre · 11-23-2013, 11:25 AM

Yea, 1st round guard prospects. That is how championship teams are built.

Saccopoo · 11-23-2013, 11:36 AM

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Yea, 1st round guard prospects. That is how championship teams are built.

Halfcan · 11-23-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

BTW, Seeing Red, I nearly forgot to ask, when did Umenyoria break DT's single game sack record?

what?

milkman · 11-23-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

what?

See post #49.

Halfcan · 11-23-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeingRed

I donno about that. Alot of synicism on here for a team that is tied at an NFL BEST 9-1

I get concern but lets see it for what it is.

Maybe there is some reason for optimism. Seems to me we got some depth. Maybe Stephenson can step up and provide a spark at RT, who is to say he won't be an upgrade on Fisher? Stephenson is an athletic 6'7" 310 lbs with a good college career and some good NFL starts. Hes also a good story as he was born in Kansas City. This is a great opportunity for him and might actually be a good thing for us. Maybe sure up that side a bit.

Also Bailey looks pretty damn good against the run and Love is a 315 lbs BEAST who started all 16 games on an undefeated team (Pats) and add Catapano for pass rush. Not so bad.

The more I look into Catapano the more intrigued i become. I Just saw this tweet from Chuck Smith (watch videos attached of former All Pro and famous pass rushing coach) and the man, who trained Cat for a bit, has some high praise for him. Smith coached Osi Umenyiora when he set NFL single game sack record. Smith says Cat is the most polished pass rusher in the 2013 draft. Thats high praise considering the source. So instead of skepticism maybe there is reason to be excited still sitting at 9-1 with quality depth. Lets hope so, BIG couple games coming up! 10-1 going into the rematch.

Chuck Smith NFL ‏@chucksmithnfl 8 Nov
The most polished #passrusher in the 2013 Draft @MikeCatapano77 #crosschop #bullrush Your time is coming mike mike #ChiefsNation #Princeton

Watch these videos on Smith. This is a guy who knows pass rushing talent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_tGlzP6RSo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPafMzhYlM

lets keep a sense of optimism here guys.....10-1 going into the rematch. Home Field Arrowhead rematch.

Probably meant to say Giants record-at 5 wasn't it? DT's record is likely never broken.

Chiefnj2 · 11-23-2013, 12:27 PM

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You're an idiot. Other top ten picks have been worse this season from this class. Jordan and Austin come to mind.

Austin??

**RealSNR** · 11-23-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CallMeSquidward

This forum gave up on Poe so quick last year as well

it never ceases to amaze me.

Hi, Bob.

Hammock Parties · 11-23-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CallMeSquidward

This forum gave up on Poe so quick last year as well

it never ceases to amaze me.

Fisher has been worse than Poe ever was.

I don't ever remember thinking "damn, Poe is the worst NT in the league."

SeeingRed · 11-23-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

BTW, Seeing Red, I nearly forgot to ask, when did Umenyoria break DT's single game sack record?

No Milkman Osi did NOT

.....I stand corrected! My bad.

I was just copying incorrect information from the internet.

I just rechecked. Osi had a 6 sack game...the most THAT season and in the league SINCE DT recorded his record 7 sacks in one game! So no....and thank you for correcting me!!

I just went back and corrected it.

Sorter · 11-23-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

That's a fine gif.

A fine gif indeed.

Halfcan · 11-23-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeingRed

No Milkman Osi did NOT

.....I stand corrected! My bad.

I was just copying incorrect information from the internet.

I just rechecked. Osi had a 6 sack game...the most THAT season and in the league SINCE DT recorded his record 7 sacks in one game! So no....and thank you for correcting me!!

Never copy and paste from Nick Athan-lol

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