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Old 03-08-2015, 12:51 AM  
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PFT: Unhappy with Chiefs, Houston hopes to attract an offer sheet
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It’s highly unusual for franchise players to be signed to offer sheets, because teams regard any unused first-round picks as potential Hall of Fame players. Chiefs linebacker Justin Houston could become the exception, for various reasons.

First, he enters the process after completing a 22-sack season. No player with that kind of performance has been available on the heels of it, with or without compensation.

Second, he’s motivated to move on. Per multiple sources, Houston is very upset with the Chiefs. It’s believed that he’ll actively solicit an offer sheet in the hopes the Chiefs won’t match it.
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:07 AM   #61
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LOL, NOPE. The only time the Chiefs will get a Qb is if its by total ****ing accident. It would have to be something crazy like Tom Brady in the 5 th round or whatever he was drafted in. It would just be blind ass luck.

LOL, like Murray being the guy that beats the odds becomes that Franchise QB.
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:10 AM   #62
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:16 AM   #63
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:33 AM   #64
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:38 AM   #65
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IMO as a non-Chiefs fan is that Houston seems like the type of player who once he gets his fat contract he isnt going to be the same type of player. Funny that his breakout year was his contract year, he will go back to being a 9 sack player.
It happens every year, a big name signs a big contract and then become an average player.

Evidence that he just wants a paycheck: holding out rookie year

that's entirely wrong
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:00 AM   #66
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Would hate to see him go, but 2 firsts for a third round guy. Win
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:11 AM   #68
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:16 AM   #69
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When you sat in on the Chiefs negotiations with Houston, did the Chiefs negotiatiors just get up and tell Houston to go **** himself, or did they all get up and piss on the table first?
As we've learned since the dawn of the great Peeholi era, Joe fan definitely "needs to be there" to have a good read on the situation, and internet speculation could not possibly be close to the truth.
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Say Tennessee's GM Dimitroff calls up Dorsey and says, "We'll sign Houston's offer sheet, but you have to give us your first rounder in 2015 to make the deal make sense. If not, then feel free taking the risk of paying $13m for a guy who won't play half a season for you."

If you're Dorsey, aren't you pretty much obligated to take that deal?
Why would Dorsey give up a first roud pick to any team if he doesn't have to? If a team wants Houston they can meet the terms, if they don't meet the terms then we keep Houston. I don't see how Dorsey would be obligated to change the terms of the offer sheet.
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Would hate to see him go, but 2 firsts for a third round guy. Win
In theory - but you dont know what you're gonna get. You do know what you have in Houston.
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No way to tell if this is simply posturing or if either side is being unreasonable.
Reasonable or not, we may expect a player to be "upset" because a team isn't proposing a contract he feels he is worth, or has earned.

The player is supposed to ask for more than he is worth.

The team is supposed to ask for what is less or what is reasonable, and then they negotiate. Or they'll always be fielding sucky teams or having trouble with cap space.

"Reasonable" can also have to do with trying to sign enough players to have a competitive team within the salary cap restraints. If a player can't figure that out, let him go and start his own team.

Hmmm.
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Why would Dorsey give up a first roud pick to any team if he doesn't have to? If a team wants Houston they can meet the terms, if they don't meet the terms then we keep Houston. I don't see how Dorsey would be obligated to change the terms of the offer sheet.
We would be moving up 10 spots in the draft, which could get us one of the top wrs, so its not fair to say we could be getting nothing.

I'd counter an offer like that.

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Colts, Falcons, Browns, Titans, Eagles. All of these teams have the cap space to put forth an offer that we can't match and have a real need at OLB/pass rusher.
Eagles have Barwin who's coming off a 15 sack season, Colts still have Mathis, Browns are gonna do everything to develop mingo and try to make that Kruger deal worth it. Falcons are really the only team I could see doing it.
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Since this regime has been here, they've overpaid for nearly every free agent or contract they've signed.

Yet now Houston isn't signed. Seems to say more about Houston than the front office.
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