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Old 06-18-2015, 09:37 AM  
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Let's talk about fair and consistent moderation
I'd like to have an open and honest conversation. I hope you all know me well enough to know I don't mean any ill will. But I know this will likely not go over well.

We need documentation of offenses and punishments. It seems all too often that fairness and rationality is thrown out the window in favor of emotion. Without documenting offenses and punishment, there is no guideline for how to dole out action. It begs for mods to take whatever action they feel at the time, which could range from nothing to full bans. Further, it opens the door wide for mods to rationalize action or non-action. This can be a living document that grows or shrinks with time.

We have too many instances of punishment being made up on the spot. This is not OK. There is no fair and consistent moderation on this board.

The unfair treatment in this place is ridiculous. Deberg gets thumped for being annoying. Inmem gets put on Miserable User for being annoying. Dozens of other users remain untouched. Hootie gets chance after chance after chance. Joey: chance after chance after chance. Inmem: ****ed without warning. Deberg loses thread starting privileges without warning because other posters are bitching.

If we remove users that are annoying, many users would be gone. If we ban people because they post a lot, I can think of dozens of users that would have been gone years ago. Trolls? Please. Unpopular opinions? GTFO.

DC is a freakin' cesspool of rudeness, meanness, and bigotry, and not a single thing happens to anyone in there. Ever. No action taken. We all know that if DC didn't exist, all of that shit would spill into the main forum. It's just an example because it does occasionally spill over here.

Mods occasionally troll certain users (name changes, rep changes, etc.). I’m not trying to take the fun away; as long as it’s temporary, no big deal. It shouldn’t be long-term. Frazod, while questionably batchit crazy, is a good example of this.

I know of one mod who’s given up on trying to do any discipline due to other mods complaining, or members threatening to revolt. Moderation seems based on whichever mod gets annoyed first. This is not a good way to moderate a board.

Do we need some fresh blood? Maybe some mods that cannot control themselves need to fall on the sword and step down. Maybe a mod election would be good.

tl;dr: Moderation here is BS. Let’s find a way to make it right.
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:49 AM   #61
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Ban all mods. Those guys are jerks.....
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:50 AM   #62
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FMB, in all seriousness...you're taking this whole thing too seriously.

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Old 06-18-2015, 11:52 AM   #63
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Again, it's not just about him. I don't know the guy personally. I'm not friends with him on Facebook, and outside of the food threads, I don't really interact with him. He was just the latest example.

The larger issue is that mods don't have any guidance on what should be punished, and what the punishment should be. It's decided all willy nilly on the spot. That's bad, IMO. So why don't we do something about it? Let's document the procedure; let's PUBLISH the procedure. Then, there will be no question. You do X, you get X. It's cut and dried.
I was just posting my opinion on Inmen. I don't really have a huge problem with how the board has been run. I acrually thought things have been pretty smooth the last year. Also, wasn't the Deberg thread privilege thing a joke? Was he upset about it?
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:52 AM   #64
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FMB, in all seriousness...you're taking this whole thing too seriously.

This place is a zoo and that's why we love it.
It can be a zoo, that's fine. I love this place, too. But I'm standing by the need to fair and consistent moderation. The way it's done now is BS.
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:53 AM   #65
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I was just posting my opinion on Inmen. I don't really have a huge problem with how the board has been run. I acrually thought things have been pretty smooth the last year. Also, wasn't the Deberg thread privilege thing a joke? Was he upset about it?
A "joke" shouldn't be permanent. Flopnuts apparently forgot about it, and I think has reinstated Deberg's privileges.
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:56 AM   #66
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<---------- Speaking of jokes that shouldn't be permanent...I think it's been like 9 months
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:57 AM   #67
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:59 AM   #69
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In all fairness, it was funny at the time. My wife posted something on FB about bacon disappearing in our kitchen, and within minutes my username was changed.
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Old 06-18-2015, 12:01 PM   #71
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Oh yeah! That's right.... You used to be "Bugeater." I forgot about that!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-18-2015, 12:02 PM   #73
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In all fairness, it was funny at the time. My wife posted something on FB about bacon disappearing in our kitchen, and within minutes my username was changed.
Yes, it was funny. But again, not permanent unless you want it that way.
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The mods put up with a lot of shit that no one ususally sees. Pissing matches between posters. Someone upset over a post or thread and wants a ban, deletion, Personal grudges etc. I believe that they are underpaid too. That said.........

I've never been in favor of banning members unless they leave you with no choice. If they are irritating or worthless to you, place them on ignore. You will never see that posters posts again.

You hate a thread for whatever reason, place the thread on ignore.

This community needs to have irritating assholes around. People we have nothing in common with.Who wants to be a board with the same opinions and people types? If that's your thing there are plenty of other boards to hang our at that more fit what you are looking for in a board. I have no love for Imm58 but he shouldn't be on the miserable user list. He should just be on your ignore list.

You don't like Deburg thread He should just be on your ignore list.

There is a TOS. That's the rules that will get you banned. It should be
followed. If being an irritating dick will get you banned, put it in there.

Mod actions that were not justified almost cost us many long time posters. Chiefs hub has almost 120 long time posters from here on there. The mods backed off and people came back. I'd hate to see that happen again.

The mods are acting on complaints usually. Maybe is people used the tools more, they wouldn't be forced to act.
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lol....I thought Bug's name change had something to do with everyone going to food names last offseason.
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