Football Chargers going to LA official - Page 5

Kiimo · 12:58 PM

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ium-with-rams/

Better than the Raiders coming here, plus Chiefs / Chargers in my backyard.

I'd prefer they stayed in San Diego though.

EDIT: NOT SO FAST SAYS SAN DIEGO

saphojunkie · 01-14-2016, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Raiders can't do anything for a year in Los Angeles and its contingent on San Diego not moving there. Chargers have a year to work something out in San Diego or move to Los Angeles.

That's exactly what he said.

Kiimo · 01-14-2016, 01:18 PM

Kroenke is making basically a 3 billion gamble when you include the stadium, land and relocation fees. He's the only owner of the 3 who can do that, considering he and his wife are worth 13 billion or whatever. It's a huge gamble because you are relying on LA to embrace the team who won't play in a new stadium for three years. Also in a time of decreasing PSLs from businesses you can't really count on that corporate sponsorship. Consider the lack of sales for Atlanta's stadium.

So Kroenke is one of the only owners who can actually afford to take this gamble, the Chargers and Raiders are forced to saddle up to the big fish now that Carson is dead. So what's the point? Does anybody think Spanos or Davis truly believes that a partnership with Kroenke is a benevolent deal?

NO chance on that. The NFL is saying hey you need to offer them partnership for the next two years. I forsee that offer getting worse and worse with each passing day as Kroenke figures out ways to exploit it. He just ponied up all the cash to take the risk. He is probably thinking he is entitled to all the revenue and he is right.

The risk of this thing failing increases with a second team considering Los Angeles' climate regarding football. What possible benefits would having the Chargers or Raiders share the stadium that he built on the land that he bought be? He doesn't need their cash and their presence decreases the odds of success.

I'm convinced the Chargers would be stupid to move and the Raiders will get forced out. Just my limited opinion based on talk radio today.

saphojunkie · 01-14-2016, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I know I'm supposed to hate Kroenke but he is businessing circles around other businessers. He's making them look like total chumps at this point and an insider was just on the radio saying the way this is going is increasingly that Kroenke will own the LA market alone and the Chargers and Raiders will use their 100m to stay in their towns.

Neither team apparently wants to be the lamprey to Kroenke.

Best possible scenario, actually.

While I liked the idea of having Chiefs games on local TV twice a year, I don't see why just having the LA Rams wouldn't be enough.

Then again, New York has two sports teams in the big 3 sports, why can't LA?

Kiimo · 01-14-2016, 01:26 PM

For several reasons I'd say. Demographics being one, history of failure another. The Jets and Giants have also built up fan bases for decades.

If the Chargers move to LA you're asking Angelinos to not only get behind one new "football" sport team, but two.

The Chargers are second-fiddle. They'd alienate their only fanbase in the hopes of winning a new one that already followed the Rams and Raiders, in a stadium bought and paid for by the owner of their direct competition for entertainment dollars.

Also Spanos would straight-up be Kroenke's Little Bitch. For life.

scho63 · 01-14-2016, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

This outcome was so predictable. Just as I thought, the Chargers and Raiders each get $100 million to subsidize a new stadium.

I can see the Chargers sharing the stadium, it should work well. Not good for the Raiders in any way.

They should just build a new stadium in Oakland, they fill the damn thing so why not.

The Redskins are in the process of locating a new stadium as well and could be back in Maryland, DC, or in Virginia. Their stadium was one of the worst built POS I've ever seen and fell apart quickly. It's all rusty everywhere.

Once again, things worked out well for everyone but the Faiders!

Toby Waller · 01-14-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

For several reasons I'd say. Demographics being one, history of failure another. The Jets and Giants have also built up fan bases for decades.

If the Chargers move to LA you're asking Angelinos to not only get behind one new "football" sport team, but two.

The Chargers are second-fiddle. They'd alienate their only fanbase in the hopes of winning a new one that already followed the Rams and Raiders, in a stadium bought and paid for by the owner of their direct competition for entertainment dollars.

Also Spanos would straight-up be Kroenke's Little Bitch. For life.

Rams are the Giants
Chargers are the Jets
Same crap,different day.
Dallas hasn't won big in a while and they still rule in the nfl world.
Don't worry,the nfl machine will make sure the Rams become and stay nationally popular as they are already a sort of nfl original 6 team. They are going to get rid of that little cookie cutter curved ram logo they have on their sleeve for something larger and fierce too .....that's a lot of typing on a phone,

Kiimo · 01-15-2016, 12:34 PM

I hate to say anything "official" after making this "official" thread but San Diego media reporting that Spanos has "officially" re-opened negotiations with the city of San Diego.

Great news imo.

**sd4chiefs** · 01-17-2016, 10:11 AM

The Chargers in San Diego is near, as the team will announce it’s move to Los Angeles later this week.

http://fansided.com/2016/01/16/repor...les-next-week/

It seemed like only a matter of time before the Chargers announced their move to Los Angeles, and it appears that time will come next week. Despite biding their time in the wake of the Rams move from St. Louis to Los Angeles, the Chargers will indeed announce the move soon which allows them to get a head start on season ticket sales in their new home.

GloucesterChief · 01-17-2016, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sd4chiefs

The Chargers in San Diego is near, as the team will announce it’s move to Los Angeles later this week.

http://fansided.com/2016/01/16/repor...les-next-week/

It seemed like only a matter of time before the Chargers announced their move to Los Angeles, and it appears that time will come next week. Despite biding their time in the wake of the Rams move from St. Louis to Los Angeles, the Chargers will indeed announce the move soon which allows them to get a head start on season ticket sales in their new home.

I expect the Raiders will make a deal with San Diego and get a new stadium there. That leaves the NFL with SLC, SA, and maybe Vegas as potential blackmail cities along with St. Louis and Oakland. Doubtful that StL and OAK have as much oomph as the other three.

**sd4chiefs** · 01-17-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

I expect the Raiders will make a deal with San Diego and get a new stadium there. That leaves the NFL with SLC, SA, and maybe Vegas as potential blackmail cities along with St. Louis and Oakland. Doubtful that StL and OAK have as much oomph as the other three.

I just don't see how the City of San Diego will get voter approval on a new stadium for the Raiders.

GloucesterChief · 01-17-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sd4chiefs

I just don't see how the City of San Diego will get voter approval on a new stadium for the Raiders.

Qualcomm even though it is a dump is still much better than the Oakland coliseum which is pretty much crumbling.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-29-2016, 03:40 PM

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...iple-decision/

The Chargers have reached an agreement in principle with the Los Angeles Rams regarding the two teams sharing a stadium in Inglewood.

The agreement allows the Chargers to move to Los Angeles.

The question that remains is when that will happen — or if it will.

The next step is for Chargers chairman Dean Spanos to announce his decision about whether he will give his adopted hometown another try. Two sources indicated Friday that announcement is imminent, but they did not provide specifics.

NFL owners voted earlier this month to allow the Rams to move from Los Angeles and gave the Chargers the option to join them. The sides began meeting the following week and focused on a deal brokered by the NFL in which the Chargers would be a tenant in the Inglewood stadium, which is set to open in 2019.

The Chargers have until January 15, 2017, to exercise their option to move. If they get a stadium initiative approved this year, that deadline could be extended to 2018 to allow for legal challenges or a second election, if necessary.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-29-2016, 04:51 PM

BREAKING: Chargers are staying in San Diego for the 2016 season, Dean Spanos announces in a statement.
— San Diego Sports (@sdutSports) January 29, 2016

KCUnited · 01-29-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

BREAKING: Chargers are staying in San Diego for the 2016 season, Dean Spanos announces in a statement.
— San Diego Sports (@sdutSports) January 29, 2016

YASS! /2 guys

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2016, 05:10 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...diego-for-2016

Today I decided our team will stay in San Diego for the 2016 season and I hope for the long term in a new stadium. Every game, all season

I have met with Mayor Faulconer and Supervisor Roberts and I look forward to working closely with them and the business community to resolve our stadium dilemma. We have an option and an agreement with the Los Angeles Rams to go to Inglewood in the next year, but my focus is on San Diego.

This has been our home for 55 years, and I want to keep the team here and provide the world-class stadium experience you deserve.

Everyone on both sides of the table in San Diego must now determine the best next steps and how to deploy the additional resources provided by the NFL. I am committed to looking at this with a fresh perspective and new sense of possibility.

With deep appreciation for your years of support.

01-14-2016, 01:18 PM	#62
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3658742	Kroenke is making basically a 3 billion gamble when you include the stadium, land and relocation fees. He's the only owner of the 3 who can do that, considering he and his wife are worth 13 billion or whatever. It's a huge gamble because you are relying on LA to embrace the team who won't play in a new stadium for three years. Also in a time of decreasing PSLs from businesses you can't really count on that corporate sponsorship. Consider the lack of sales for Atlanta's stadium. So Kroenke is one of the only owners who can actually afford to take this gamble, the Chargers and Raiders are forced to saddle up to the big fish now that Carson is dead. So what's the point? Does anybody think Spanos or Davis truly believes that a partnership with Kroenke is a benevolent deal? NO chance on that. The NFL is saying hey you need to offer them partnership for the next two years. I forsee that offer getting worse and worse with each passing day as Kroenke figures out ways to exploit it. He just ponied up all the cash to take the risk. He is probably thinking he is entitled to all the revenue and he is right. The risk of this thing failing increases with a second team considering Los Angeles' climate regarding football. What possible benefits would having the Chargers or Raiders share the stadium that he built on the land that he bought be? He doesn't need their cash and their presence decreases the odds of success. I'm convinced the Chargers would be stupid to move and the Raiders will get forced out. Just my limited opinion based on talk radio today.
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01-14-2016, 01:26 PM	#64
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3658742	For several reasons I'd say. Demographics being one, history of failure another. The Jets and Giants have also built up fan bases for decades. If the Chargers move to LA you're asking Angelinos to not only get behind one new "football" sport team, but two. The Chargers are second-fiddle. They'd alienate their only fanbase in the hopes of winning a new one that already followed the Rams and Raiders, in a stadium bought and paid for by the owner of their direct competition for entertainment dollars. Also Spanos would straight-up be Kroenke's Little Bitch. For life.
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01-15-2016, 12:34 PM	#67
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3658742	I hate to say anything "official" after making this "official" thread but San Diego media reporting that Spanos has "officially" re-opened negotiations with the city of San Diego. Great news imo.
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01-17-2016, 10:11 AM	#68
sd4chiefs error 404 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bizarro World Casino cash: $8800445	The Chargers in San Diego is near, as the team will announce it’s move to Los Angeles later this week. http://fansided.com/2016/01/16/repor...les-next-week/ It seemed like only a matter of time before the Chargers announced their move to Los Angeles, and it appears that time will come next week. Despite biding their time in the wake of the Rams move from St. Louis to Los Angeles, the Chargers will indeed announce the move soon which allows them to get a head start on season ticket sales in their new home. __________________ “It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain.
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01-29-2016, 03:40 PM	#72
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3848675	http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...iple-decision/ The Chargers have reached an agreement in principle with the Los Angeles Rams regarding the two teams sharing a stadium in Inglewood. The agreement allows the Chargers to move to Los Angeles. The question that remains is when that will happen — or if it will. The next step is for Chargers chairman Dean Spanos to announce his decision about whether he will give his adopted hometown another try. Two sources indicated Friday that announcement is imminent, but they did not provide specifics. NFL owners voted earlier this month to allow the Rams to move from Los Angeles and gave the Chargers the option to join them. The sides began meeting the following week and focused on a deal brokered by the NFL in which the Chargers would be a tenant in the Inglewood stadium, which is set to open in 2019. The Chargers have until January 15, 2017, to exercise their option to move. If they get a stadium initiative approved this year, that deadline could be extended to 2018 to allow for legal challenges or a second election, if necessary.
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01-29-2016, 04:51 PM	#73
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3848675	BREAKING: Chargers are staying in San Diego for the 2016 season, Dean Spanos announces in a statement. — San Diego Sports (@sdutSports) January 29, 2016
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01-29-2016, 05:10 PM	#75
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...diego-for-2016 Today I decided our team will stay in San Diego for the 2016 season and I hope for the long term in a new stadium. Every game, all season I have met with Mayor Faulconer and Supervisor Roberts and I look forward to working closely with them and the business community to resolve our stadium dilemma. We have an option and an agreement with the Los Angeles Rams to go to Inglewood in the next year, but my focus is on San Diego. This has been our home for 55 years, and I want to keep the team here and provide the world-class stadium experience you deserve. Everyone on both sides of the table in San Diego must now determine the best next steps and how to deploy the additional resources provided by the NFL. I am committed to looking at this with a fresh perspective and new sense of possibility. With deep appreciation for your years of support.
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