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Old 04-29-2018, 12:16 PM  
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Post-Draft Chiefs Depth Chart
Not gonna include UDFAs or anyone super under the radar for this, but just trying to put together something to give us a look at what we're working with so far. This doesn't include the entire roster. Rookies are in italics.

QB: Mahomes, Henne, McGloin
RB: Hunt, Ware, West, D. Williams, K. Williams
FB: Sherman
WR: Hill, Watkins, Conley, Robinson, Chesson, DAT, Kemp, Dieter, Braverman
TE: Kelce, Harris, Charles, Wright, Amaro
LT: Fisher, Erving
LG: Ehinger, Witzmann
C: Morse, Devey
RG: LDT, McKenzie
RT: Schwartz
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LE: Bailey, RNR
NT: X. Williams, Nnadi
RE: Jones, Jenkins
LOLB: Houston, KPass, Nicolas
WILB: Hitchens, Eligwe
MILB: Ragland, Terrance Smith, O'Daniel ($ Backer)
ROLB: Ford, Speaks, Zombo
CB: Fuller, Nelson, Amerson, Reaser, Redmond, Tremon Smith, Lampkin
SS: Berry, Sorensen, Murray
FS: Watts, Golden, McQuay, Sterns

K/P/LS are obvious.

I guess my first takeaway was that this roster is quite a bit deeper in some spots than I can recall it being since Reid got here. It also seems thin in a place or two, but nothing horrific. Thoughts? Concerns?
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Old 04-29-2018, 03:16 PM   #61
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Old 04-29-2018, 03:19 PM   #62
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Dude I am all for getting rid of Zombo which is a cap savings of $1.2M.
I don't see us cutting Sorensen or Bailey.
Who do you see replacing Sorensen?
What about O'Daniel?

Judging by the comments in his thread- many think that is why we drafted him?

Sorensen is slow in coverage and not great in run support. Yes, he made the occasional sack or big play- so if we keep him I won't bitch too much. We are tight on the cap and this seems like a place to gain some room.
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Old 04-29-2018, 03:19 PM   #63
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Old 04-29-2018, 03:42 PM   #64
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Dude I am all for getting rid of Zombo which is a cap savings of $1.2M.
I don't see us cutting Sorensen or Bailey.
Who do you see replacing Sorensen?
I think the safety market is still pretty deep.

They might be able to pick up a starter at FS for his cap savings.
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Old 04-29-2018, 04:00 PM   #65
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I think Sorensen is the starter at FS this year folks.

Also, don't forget the addition of superstar receiver Nelson Spruce.
We will save 4.5 million against cap by cutting him post June 1, which I think we will. IMO no brainer.
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Old 04-29-2018, 04:11 PM   #66
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Not according to Veach and Reid. They have said that he will be an OLB and that they believe with time he will be Tamba Hali.
There is no way they can really believe a 285 lb dude who runs a 4.9 can play OLB at a high level.
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Old 04-29-2018, 04:22 PM   #67
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What about O'Daniel?

Judging by the comments in his thread- many think that is why we drafted him?

Sorensen is slow in coverage and not great in run support. Yes, he made the occasional sack or big play- so if we keep him I won't bitch too much. We are tight on the cap and this seems like a place to gain some room.
According to Reid and Veach he is a ST and Dime package player. In Dime he will be covering TE.
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There is no way they can really believe a 285 lb dude who runs a 4.9 can play OLB at a high level.
His 4.87 40 time is identical to Tamba’s and he weighs 8 more pounds.

I’m pretty sure he will lose weight if they are asking him to play OLB.

I’m skeptical myself, but that’s who they’re comparing him to and it matches up.
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There is no way they can really believe a 285 lb dude who runs a 4.9 can play OLB at a high level.
They are the ones that stated that he would play OLB and slide inside similar to how they used Tamba. Tamba also ran a 4.9 at the combine.
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His 4.87!40 time is identical to Tamba’s and he weighs 8 more pounds.

I’m pretty sure he will lose weight if they are asking him to play OLB.

I’m skeptical myself, but that’s who they’re comparing him to and it matches up.
Tamba never weighed CLOSE to 285 lbs.

They might try him at OLB for a bit but I believe he'll end up at DE.
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There is no way they can really believe a 285 lb dude who runs a 4.9 can play OLB at a high level.
Agreed. The Youtube videos of him shows he has very poor change of direction. He's too stiff to play OLB. If Reach and Reid think he can play a traditional OLB then I don't have much optimism for their player evals.
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Tamba never weighed CLOSE to 285 lbs.

They might try him at OLB for a bit but I believe he'll end up at DE.
The Chiefs bio on Tamba shows his weight at 279.
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There is no way they can really believe a 285 lb dude who runs a 4.9 can play OLB at a high level.
Hali ran a 4.87

From what I hear Speaks should be able to slim down a little

Bend and agility is important, but I think Speaks is more a replacement for Hali/Zombo. It's been years since they picked up a sack. Speaks is an immediate improvement over those guys

Still, Speaks can afford to lose whatever fat is still on him. I think he'll play a lot faster that way
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Tamba Hali
6'3" 275 - 4.87 40-yd, 18 bench, 30" vert, 8'10" broad, 4.31 short shuttle, 7.28 3-cone

Breeland Speaks
6'2-7/8" 283 - 4.87 40-yd, 32.5" vert, 9'2" broad, 4.65 short shuttle, 7.63 3-cone.

My opinion is you ask Speaks to cut up and drop about 10 pounds and you have Tamba.
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Tamba Hali
6'3" 275 - 4.87 40-yd, 18 bench, 30" vert, 8'10" broad, 4.31 short shuttle, 7.28 3-cone

Breeland Speaks
6'2-7/8" 283 - 4.87 40-yd, 32.5" vert, 9'2" broad, 4.65 short shuttle, 7.63 3-cone.

My opinion is you ask Speaks to cut up and drop about 10 pounds and you have Tamba.
Shuttle and 3-cone are substantially worse.

I guess we’ll see if his explosiveness improves if he cuts weight.
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