Chiefs Chiefs have 2nd worst fan base in the NFL according to some ****in NERD - Page 5

carcosa · 06-24-2019, 04:46 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/cowboys-pat...153035364.html

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Dr. Lewis judges fan bases on three criteria: Fan Equity, Social Equity and Road Equity. Here’s how those break down.

Fan Equity is a matter of judging how well fans support their team by backing up their words with dollars — i.e., how much they spend on everything from season tickets to jerseys. If a team fills its stadium but there’s not much demand past that, their Fan Equity score is lower.

Social Equity is based on a team’s social media reach — i.e., how many followers the team has across various social media channels. A team that’s not able to draw many followers on social isn’t a team with a deep degree of Social Equity.

Road Equity involves measuring how well a team draws on the road, adjusting for team performance. People show up to watch when the Cowboys or Steelers come to town. People don’t show up to watch when, say, the Bengals or Titans do. (Sorry, Cincy and Tennessee, but you know it’s true.)

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The Kansas City Chiefs are the most notable question mark in these rankings. How can a team which could have won the Super Bowl last year, a team with the reigning NFL MVP, be ranked second-to-last? Chiefs fans haven’t even read this far before typing out their rage.

Two factors: first, the effects of last year’s triumph haven’t fully manifested yet. Second: by the numbers, Chiefs fans — while loud in volume — are small in number, at least as of last season. But here’s where we could start to see some real change. If Mahomes remains the game-changer he seems to be, if he becomes the Stephen Curry of the NFL, the Chiefs — like the Warriors in the NBA — could go from afterthought to trendy bandwagon team, and that would increase KC’s equity across all three criteria.

Our Beautiful Quarterback Man has voiced his displeasure with the findings of this mother****in EGGHEAD CHUMP:

Wait what?!? Heck no https://t.co/mazHQB2emE
— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) June 24, 2019

htismaqe · 06-26-2019, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

I wasn't aware, but AOL was actually bought by Verizon for $4.4B exactly four years and one day ago. Clearly a good investment.

It actually was a good investment.

**loochy** · 06-26-2019, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Naptown Chief

CHIEFS HAVE #1 MOST BEST NFL FOOTBALL FORUM

-THIS ****ING NERD

OH HELL YEAH!

carcosa · 06-26-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Naptown Chief

CHIEFS HAVE #1 MOST BEST NFL FOOTBALL FORUM
-THIS ****ING NERD

YES BITCH! CHIEFS PLANET DOT COM #1 ON LINE!!!!!!!!

chiefzilla1501 · 06-26-2019, 11:25 AM

I've been struggling to come up with why. I thought big market, but green bay and indy are toward the top. I still can't believe for a second indy belongs anywhere near there. I think there are a few things at work.... Let's face it, until last year, we played boring ass football. No swagger. No excitement. We may have sold tickets but did we sell jerseys? Kelce and Tyreek became superstars last year. Second, think it's really really telling that on the bottom are mostly teams with almost no major playoff success. Much as we may hate then, the Homer's, Fairweather fans, and bandwagon jumpers aren't there. But I think toward midyear last year you saw that really start to change.

I'd bet we make an enormous jump next year

T-post Tom · 06-26-2019, 11:29 AM

USA Today is on our side. Go Ted!:

Get the heck out of here with your rigorously researched quantitative analysis, Emory University professor Mike Lewis. How dare you, sir?

You may have your “scholarly methods” that use “actual information” to “quantify” the quality of NFL fanbases, and maybe your “science” suggests that Kansas City Chiefs fans rank 31st out of 32 pro football fanbases in terms of loyalty.

But you know what I’ve got? My gut instinct, about three total weeks’ worth of time spent in Kansas City across the Octobers of 2014 and 2015, the knowledge that it is both silly and impossible to attempt to characterize any group as large as an NFL team’s entire fanbase, and the understanding that pandering to sports fans in any particular city is a one-way ticket to Traffic Town.

I really meant it when I called Kansas City “the best baseball town in America” in 2015, and I don’t ever expect to come across a place so comprehensively invested in a baseball team as Kansas City was for its Royals during their back-to-back World Series runs. Basically everyone you saw, everywhere in the city, was decked out in Royals’ gear and/or talking about the Royals. It was cool. It doesn’t seem like it’s like that anymore, but I haven’t been there to see it.

And while maybe I don’t personally feel comfortable making broad generalizations about something as inherently nebulous as a fanbase, I do believe there are regional particulars to the way people behave, and I know people in Kansas City behave in a way that ultimately creates good barbecue. That’s admirable!

Also, where my neighbors in New York City tend to studiously avoid making eye contact or in any way acknowledging strangers on the street, people in Pittsburgh give you a passing nod, and people in Tampa shoot you a totally unnerving and vaguely lascivious side-eye staredown, Kansas Citians ask you how you’re doing when they see you on the street, then seem like they’re genuinely interested in knowing the answer. They’re so nice.

Kansas City is almost certainly the best city in Missouri and possibly also the best city in Kansas. There are a couple interstates running through the heart of town, so it’s fairly easy to drive around. There’s one neighborhood so hip that its coffee shop refused to serve me milk with my coffee because they think it cheapens the coffee experience, or something.

The biggest buildings are all sort of close together and set atop a hill, so its skyline has a way of looking triumphant even though it has zero entries on the Wikipedia’s list of tallest buildings in the U.S. This effect is amplified if the radio happens to be soundtracking Kansas City with the Electric Light Orchestra’s Fire On High, and Kansas City rock radio is constantly playing Fire On High.

As a snobbish Coastal Elite, I am naturally reluctant to praise any city that is not my own. But when Kansas City comes up in conversation in the cramped, overpriced, often roach-infested places where I hang out, I’ll tell friends that it’s “actually not bad” and even “kind of cool,” then regale them with the hilarious story of the time in 2005 my friends and I ordered four beers at a Westport bar and assumed the bartender meant they were $2.50 each and not $2.50 total.

Top of my head, I’m not sure I know any Kansas City Chiefs fans personally, and I know I’ve never been to a Kansas City Chiefs game. But I know all of the above-mentioned stuff about Kansas City, and it all makes me think Chiefs fans in general are actually not bad, maybe even kind of cool, and definitely not the NFL’s second-worst fanbase no matter what this guy’s math says. Chiefs fans: You’re welcome.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/kan...rbecue-is-good

lcarus · 06-26-2019, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I've been struggling to come up with why. I thought big market, but green bay and indy are toward the top. I still can't believe for a second indy belongs anywhere near there. I think there are a few things at work.... Let's face it, until last year, we played boring ass football. No swagger. No excitement. We may have sold tickets but did we sell jerseys? Kelce and Tyreek became superstars last year. Second, think it's really really telling that on the bottom are mostly teams with almost no major playoff success. Much as we may hate then, the Homer's, Fairweather fans, and bandwagon jumpers aren't there. But I think toward midyear last year you saw that really start to change.

I'd bet we make an enormous jump next year

Indy is towards the top? I remember when we made the playoffs with Huard and played in Indy for wild card weekend. I was at that game and it felt like a Chiefs home game. And I believe that was the year Manning won the Super Bowl. Such a dumb list.

Naptown Chief · 06-26-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

YES BITCH! CHIEFS PLANET DOT COM #1 ON LINE!!!!!!!!

**** YIP (I wholeheartedly agree with this post, but have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation)!!!

I hope your summer has been going well, and I hope you continue enjoying the kind of diarrhea that only Taco Bell can give you!

Fish · 06-26-2019, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It actually was a good investment.

Even Verizon disagrees with that. They lost over $4B, fired the guy hired to do the merger, and ended up cutting lots and lots of jobs because of it.

Verizon cuts 10,000 jobs and admits its Yahoo/AOL division is a failure

Verizon Media CEO Reveals His Plan For Reviving Struggling Online Business

htismaqe · 06-26-2019, 12:17 PM

A lot of people are going on about attendance. The OP clearly states it isn't really part of the metric.

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If a team fills its stadium but there’s not much demand past that, their Fan Equity score is lower.

I personally think it should have more weight but the idiot that wrote the article evidently thinks Twitter posts and jerseys are more important than ticket sales.

RunKC · 06-26-2019, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Even Verizon disagrees with that. They lost over $4B, fired the guy hired to do the merger, and ended up cutting lots and lots of jobs because of it.

Verizon cuts 10,000 jobs and admits its Yahoo/AOL division is a failure

Verizon Media CEO Reveals His Plan For Reviving Struggling Online Business

Telecom world is full of some goddamn morons. I work with folks in all varieties of these companies.

Yes Verizon ****ed up and AT&T ****ed up with Directv

htismaqe · 06-26-2019, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Even Verizon disagrees with that. They lost over $4B, fired the guy hired to do the merger, and ended up cutting lots and lots of jobs because of it.

Verizon cuts 10,000 jobs and admits its Yahoo/AOL division is a failure

Verizon Media CEO Reveals His Plan For Reviving Struggling Online Business

The 10K jobs were part of a voluntary separation and a reorganization to align business units with upcoming edge computing and content strategies, strategies that wouldn't exist without the acquisitions of those two companies.

Yahoo was as good as dead when they were acquired. Of course they admitted the division was a failure because it was. It was when they bought it. If the only measure of success is short-term stock returns, then sure, call it a failure. There's a lot more to it than that.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 06-26-2019, 12:23 PM

Last time KC played Dallas, the Hill Mary game, there was TONS of red in the stands. They got DAL way up there.

**loochy** · 06-26-2019, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Last time KC played Dallas, the Hill Mary game, there was TONS of red in the stands. They got DAL way up there.

Indeed. I was there. The noise level we produced was surprisingly loud. The stadium busted out into a chop on a few occasions. However, Dallas fans are notoriously fair weather and weak willed.

KCTitus · 06-26-2019, 07:30 PM

I completely disagree with this 'DR's concept of a fan or fan base...the metrics used are basically, amount of disposable income, social media participation and lastly but probably the worst is whether or not other fans show up to watch a road team.

I cannot for the life of me figure out how one's fandom is measured by whether or not fans in Houston show up for the Kansas City Chiefs coming to town. This person's version of a fan has no idea on how to measure fandom.

If one were to try to quantitatively measure fandom, one part of that equation would want to discount, naturally, bandwagon fans, so the number of championships in recent time, like in the last 5-10 years should necessarily dilute the fandom quotient.

How does one try to measure me a fan of a team that has not won a championship since I was 9months old and have been an active member of a fan forum for 20 years versus some douchebag that has lots of money to spend in Boston who twitters about the Pats....

there is no measurement. **** him.

**New World Order** · 06-26-2019, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Last time KC played Dallas, the Hill Mary game, there was TONS of red in the stands. They got DAL way up there.

Yep

Was at least 40% red in that stadium

06-26-2019, 11:25 AM	#64
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1754497	I've been struggling to come up with why. I thought big market, but green bay and indy are toward the top. I still can't believe for a second indy belongs anywhere near there. I think there are a few things at work.... Let's face it, until last year, we played boring ass football. No swagger. No excitement. We may have sold tickets but did we sell jerseys? Kelce and Tyreek became superstars last year. Second, think it's really really telling that on the bottom are mostly teams with almost no major playoff success. Much as we may hate then, the Homer's, Fairweather fans, and bandwagon jumpers aren't there. But I think toward midyear last year you saw that really start to change. I'd bet we make an enormous jump next year
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06-26-2019, 11:29 AM	#65
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4367293	USA Today is on our side. Go Ted!: Get the heck out of here with your rigorously researched quantitative analysis, Emory University professor Mike Lewis. How dare you, sir? You may have your “scholarly methods” that use “actual information” to “quantify” the quality of NFL fanbases, and maybe your “science” suggests that Kansas City Chiefs fans rank 31st out of 32 pro football fanbases in terms of loyalty. But you know what I’ve got? My gut instinct, about three total weeks’ worth of time spent in Kansas City across the Octobers of 2014 and 2015, the knowledge that it is both silly and impossible to attempt to characterize any group as large as an NFL team’s entire fanbase, and the understanding that pandering to sports fans in any particular city is a one-way ticket to Traffic Town. I really meant it when I called Kansas City “the best baseball town in America” in 2015, and I don’t ever expect to come across a place so comprehensively invested in a baseball team as Kansas City was for its Royals during their back-to-back World Series runs. Basically everyone you saw, everywhere in the city, was decked out in Royals’ gear and/or talking about the Royals. It was cool. It doesn’t seem like it’s like that anymore, but I haven’t been there to see it. And while maybe I don’t personally feel comfortable making broad generalizations about something as inherently nebulous as a fanbase, I do believe there are regional particulars to the way people behave, and I know people in Kansas City behave in a way that ultimately creates good barbecue. That’s admirable! Also, where my neighbors in New York City tend to studiously avoid making eye contact or in any way acknowledging strangers on the street, people in Pittsburgh give you a passing nod, and people in Tampa shoot you a totally unnerving and vaguely lascivious side-eye staredown, Kansas Citians ask you how you’re doing when they see you on the street, then seem like they’re genuinely interested in knowing the answer. They’re so nice. Kansas City is almost certainly the best city in Missouri and possibly also the best city in Kansas. There are a couple interstates running through the heart of town, so it’s fairly easy to drive around. There’s one neighborhood so hip that its coffee shop refused to serve me milk with my coffee because they think it cheapens the coffee experience, or something. The biggest buildings are all sort of close together and set atop a hill, so its skyline has a way of looking triumphant even though it has zero entries on the Wikipedia’s list of tallest buildings in the U.S. This effect is amplified if the radio happens to be soundtracking Kansas City with the Electric Light Orchestra’s Fire On High, and Kansas City rock radio is constantly playing Fire On High. As a snobbish Coastal Elite, I am naturally reluctant to praise any city that is not my own. But when Kansas City comes up in conversation in the cramped, overpriced, often roach-infested places where I hang out, I’ll tell friends that it’s “actually not bad” and even “kind of cool,” then regale them with the hilarious story of the time in 2005 my friends and I ordered four beers at a Westport bar and assumed the bartender meant they were $2.50 each and not $2.50 total. Top of my head, I’m not sure I know any Kansas City Chiefs fans personally, and I know I’ve never been to a Kansas City Chiefs game. But I know all of the above-mentioned stuff about Kansas City, and it all makes me think Chiefs fans in general are actually not bad, maybe even kind of cool, and definitely not the NFL’s second-worst fanbase no matter what this guy’s math says. Chiefs fans: You’re welcome. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/kan...rbecue-is-good __________________ You seem nice!
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KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	I completely disagree with this 'DR's concept of a fan or fan base...the metrics used are basically, amount of disposable income, social media participation and lastly but probably the worst is whether or not other fans show up to watch a road team. I cannot for the life of me figure out how one's fandom is measured by whether or not fans in Houston show up for the Kansas City Chiefs coming to town. This person's version of a fan has no idea on how to measure fandom. If one were to try to quantitatively measure fandom, one part of that equation would want to discount, naturally, bandwagon fans, so the number of championships in recent time, like in the last 5-10 years should necessarily dilute the fandom quotient. How does one try to measure me a fan of a team that has not won a championship since I was 9months old and have been an active member of a fan forum for 20 years versus some douchebag that has lots of money to spend in Boston who twitters about the Pats.... there is no measurement. **** him. __________________ Anything you post on this BB can and will be used against you...
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