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11-12-2013, 05:35 AM | #781 |
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This is what it comes down to for me with Ryan.
Brady, Rodgers, Manning and to a lesser extent, Brees, has never had this type of losing season. All of those guys have had injuries, issues but they all managed to keep their teams near .500 or better despite all the shit luck. Ryan can't do that. He doesn't elevate his team around him. I think the team elevates him. Brady throwing to Aaron Dobson and Kimbrell Thompkins for half a year still resulted in a 7-2 record. Ryan is a nice QB, but he should be closer on the payscale to Rivers than he is Aaron Rodgers.
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Time will tell.
I think both of those deals were needed costs. What was Atlanta supposed to do? Let Matt Ryan walk and pray a quarterback fell to them that could start right away and keep the team winning? They were on the cusp of the superbowl... How about Baltimore? Were they supposed to finally win a superbowl...have their quarterback go on a historic playoff run and win the MVP award only to let him walk and hope a quarterback fell to them at 32 that they could save a few bucks on? I think it's beyond silly how so many here defend Alex Smith for all his shortcomings...but tear down guys like Flacco and Ryan at all costs. |
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Know what is even more silly? ( and no, not saying you ).. Many KC fans will take every opportunity to "tear down" their own QB... dismiss every "excuse" for their QB... but then defend and lift up every other QB in the league with excuses...with exception to their own.
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11-12-2013, 09:15 AM | #785 | |
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11-12-2013, 09:17 AM | #786 | |
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9-0... suck it!
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11-12-2013, 09:19 AM | #787 | |
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But, he's also not being paid like those 2 guys. With those contracts come certain expectations. If Smith were getting what those guys are, I absolutely would expect him to carry a squad. But he can't, and it's looking like those two can't either. It's too soon to say one way or another. |
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11-12-2013, 09:22 AM | #788 |
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If I'm a Gm and I'm paying a guy a contract like that, he needs to be able to elevate the players around him and win when things arent perfect.
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I can name 10-15 other QBs who would be 9-0 with this defense.
Difference is...we wouldn't be 24th on offense, 28th in passing yards, 30th in yards per attempt and 27th in TD passes. For ****'s sake, the Bills have the 24th ranked defense and they just held us to 210 total yards!!!! It was their best game of the year!
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... and every one of your names would still be wild conjecture on your part. Whereas, Alex doing it with this flawed team is... reality.
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11-12-2013, 09:40 AM | #793 |
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People kept telling me this in Matt Cassel debates...
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"Alex...is riding". Yeah, there we go.
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Just found this.... I'll just set it down here:
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...gle_season.htm NFL Single-Season Fourth Quarter Comebacks Leaders (since 1960) Rank Player (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active 4QC Year Teams Games 1. Peyton Manning (33) 7 2009 IND View Comebacks Eli Manning (30) 7 2011 NYG View Comebacks 3. Dan Pastorini (29) 6 1978 HOU View Comebacks Ed Brown (35) 6 1963 PIT View Comebacks Alex Smith (27) 6 2011 SFO View Comebacks Norm Van Brocklin+ (34) 6 1960 PHI View Comebacks Dan Marino+ (31) 6 1992 MIA View Comebacks Peyton Manning (23) 6 1999 IND View Comebacks John Elway+ (25) 6 1985 DEN View Comebacks |
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