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Old 03-11-2011, 07:35 PM  
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Japan going Chernobyl <-original thread i got banned for. thanks idiot mods.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...reactors_N.htm
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:26 AM   #781
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prove it


Go to Aiken, South Carolina and run some tests on the groundwater supply. That'll be a good start.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:38 AM   #782
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Er, no. Here's a nice summary from yesterday.




Now, what's more likely - that the earthquake we know happened somehow broke something causing that leak, or that something completely unrelated and unrepeatable coincidentally took place at the same time?
OK, but this professor was involved in the building of the plant, but has not been involved in any of the activity post-earthquake/tsunami. So it is just speculation, no? Or has there been an official report from the site that this is what happened and I missed it?
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:49 AM   #783
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OK, but this professor was involved in the building of the plant, but has not been involved in any of the activity post-earthquake/tsunami. So it is just speculation, no? Or has there been an official report from the site that this is what happened and I missed it?
No, it's not "just speculation." It's informed analysis. Unless the operators short-circuited the safety measures, the professor knows the safety measures that were there and what they were supposed to do. If the ops DID short-circuit things, then we have a whole new ballgame.

As for official report - no one's actually inside these buildings. It will be months or years before they can get any kind of direct information to work with.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:00 AM   #784
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No, it's not "just speculation." It's informed analysis. Unless the operators short-circuited the safety measures, the professor knows the safety measures that were there and what they were supposed to do. If the ops DID short-circuit things, then we have a whole new ballgame.

As for official report - no one's actually inside these buildings. It will be months or years before they can get any kind of direct information to work with.
Call it what you want, but unless he is actually on site, it's speculation. It may be that he's right since he has inside knowledge of the plant, but he can't say that with certainty.

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There it is.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:03 AM   #785
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Call it what you want, but unless he is actually on site, it's speculation. It may be that he's right since he has inside knowledge of the plant, but he can't say that with certainty.

There it is.
The alternative is that everything is working exactly as designed - and it's still not enough.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:31 AM   #786
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The alternative is that everything is working exactly as designed - and it's still not enough.
I think the altnerative is what Dartgod said, and what I said earlier -- that it may be that the only reason the plant is having all these troubles is because the cooling systems were knocked offline by (1) main reactor power -- due to SCRAM, (2) disel generators -- by tsunami, (3) batteries -- unknown, but either tsunami or running out of power.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:33 AM   #787
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On the plus side, this could really help alleviate California's overwrought public pension burden.

If we could just send 50,000 California government retirees on a beach vacation on March 18, we might be onto something...
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:18 PM   #788
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Also says radiation is extremely high (on site, of course) and may impact ability to do anything about it. Recommends US citizens within 80km leave.


No water is, well, not good...
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Also says radiation is extremely high (on site, of course) and may impact ability to do anything about it. Recommends US citizens within 80km leave.


No water is, well, not good...
Maybe someone should go pee on it.
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Who was right about how bad this was going to get?

I said so and got banned and punished for it by idiot mods.
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Who was right about how bad this was going to get?

I said so and got banned and punished for it by idiot mods.
I see you're already on your way to another banning. Way to come out of the penalty box swinging!
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I said so and got banned and punished for it by idiot mods.
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Who was right about how bad this was going to get?

I said so and got banned and punished for it by idiot mods.
you said it had already happened, which wasn't true. Further, I believe you were banned by infractions from users, not moderators.
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I see you're already on your way to another banning. Way to come out of the penalty box swinging!

So we no recourse or defense allowed here?
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