Star Wars Episode VII SPOILERS thread

[Hammock Parties]

No holds barred spoiler discussion in this thread.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Jamie

I kind of hate the idea of Han Solo being involved with stealing the Death Star plans. It's just too cute and convenient.

Fortunately, that's massive speculation.

I was told that the initial idea for Edwards' spinoff was Boba Fett. But during the power struggle between Abrams and Michael Arndt, everything, and I mean everything, changed.

Abrams "won" and is now solely responsible for the shape of the Star Wars Universe. Arndt's script was based on George Lucas' story for 7-9 and once he was fired, that entire story line was gone, too. Abrams then outlined everything in the Star Wars universe, including the Spin Off films, which changed everything.

So those of you "worried" that Lucas had crappy stories for 7-9 should no longer worry because it's all gone.

Iger is counting on Abrams vision to connect with public, so much so that they've already begun planning a massive Star Wars addition to Disneyland will feature the "New" Star Wars Universe, not the old.

The bottom line is that it's tighter than Fort Knox over there, which is reason for such speculation, which IMO, is likely way off base.

[keg in kc]

If I remember what I read, he anonymously sourced the Han thing. Could be misdirect, though.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

If I remember what I read, he anonymously sourced the Han thing. Could be misdirect, though.

I'll tend to be skeptical about everything until LucasFilm confirms or denies. The "Spoiler Man" from TheForce.Net that Clay linked earlier was all wrong and the trailer proved it.

They've gone from Kasdan writing the Boba Fett spinoff to Gary Whitta & Edwards and now just Edwards, although Simon Kinberg was linked and quickly denied. I would imagine the general outline of the film is in place, which is why they're able to get locations in place, sets, etc. but I'd imagine the dialogue, script and casting are months away, although clearly imminent, as the film's deadline quickly creeps upon them.

And this is not to mention that Arndt was to write VII and Kasdan doing a spinoff and VIII & IX, but now, Rian Johnson is writing and directing those with Abrams only producing. I'll re-iterate my fears that they're rushing this entire process by setting unreachable deadlines but hopefully, I'm wrong.

All of that said, I'm not too keen on a Han Solo appearance in the first spinoff while he's alive (as least, we expect him to be alive) in 7-9 because there will be too many comparisons with young Han to Harrison Ford. It just seems, well, weird.

[DaneMcCloud]

My, my, my, how things can change in the course of a few hours.

Chris Weitz, who wrote About A Boy and Disney's upcoming Cinderella, will now write the Gareth Edwards stand alone. Weitz also wrote, The Twilight Saga: New Moon, which I've never seen.

About A Boy, IMO, is an awesome film. He also directed American Pie, so maybe there will be some wry humor in the script as well, wink-wink.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

My, my, my, how things can change in the course of a few hours.

Chris Weitz, who wrote About A Boy and Disney's upcoming Cinderella, will now write the Gareth Edwards stand alone. Weitz also wrote, The Twilight Saga: New Moon, which I've never seen.

Sounds awful prequel to me...

[Hammock Parties]

****ing Twilight-Star Wars crossbreeding.

I am sick.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Sounds awful prequel to me...

He's a good writer, director and producer that's connected well with the public and he's massively better than Gary Witta, so there's a good chance it's in better hands.

I still haven't seen Gareth Edward's Godzilla but it's on the DVR. I have know nothing about his vision, aesthetic and feel. Hopefully, it'll be "Classic" Star Wars...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Numbah One

****ing Twilight-Star Wars crossbreeding.

I am sick.

I haven't seen those films but weren't they adaptations?

[Hammock Parties]

The Godzilla reboot was really, really good.

I'm pretty disappointed.

edit - I guess he's still directing. I'm good with this I guess.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Numbah One

The Godzilla reboot was really, really good.

I'm pretty disappointed.

edit - I guess he's still directing. I'm good with this I guess.

Well, he's working with Edwards on the project, and personally, I think Weitz is a phenomenal filmmaker. I think it's a good sign when LucasFilm fires one writer and hires another writer who's had more success. It says to me that they have a higher standard to achieve, which is a good thing.

If only George felt that way during the prequels.

[007]

Lucas - "I knew there was more to you than just money." hugs all around

YIPEEEEE

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, he's working with Edwards on the project, and personally, I think Weitz is a phenomenal filmmaker. I think it's a good sign when LucasFilm fires one writer and hires another writer who's had more success. It says to me that they have a higher standard to achieve, which is a good thing.

If only George felt that way during the prequels.

One unpleasant possibility is that there were conflicts in 'artistic vision' between the previous writer(s) and management and they brought in a company lemming (writer of Disney's upcoming Cinderella) to 'polish' the script the way Disney wants. I hope it's not a repeat of Edgar Wright and Ant Man.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'll tend to be skeptical about everything until LucasFilm confirms or denies. The "Spoiler Man" from TheForce.Net that Clay linked earlier was all wrong and the trailer proved it.

They've gone from Kasdan writing the Boba Fett spinoff to Gary Whitta & Edwards and now just Edwards, although Simon Kinberg was linked and quickly denied. I would imagine the general outline of the film is in place, which is why they're able to get locations in place, sets, etc. but I'd imagine the dialogue, script and casting are months away, although clearly imminent, as the film's deadline quickly creeps upon them.

And this is not to mention that Arndt was to write VII and Kasdan doing a spinoff and VIII & IX, but now, Rian Johnson is writing and directing those with Abrams only producing. I'll re-iterate my fears that they're rushing this entire process by setting unreachable deadlines but hopefully, I'm wrong.

All of that said, I'm not too keen on a Han Solo appearance in the first spinoff while he's alive (as least, we expect him to be alive) in 7-9 because there will be too many comparisons with young Han to Harrison Ford. It just seems, well, weird.

I don't think you can take any rumors at face value. They're still interesting to digest and discuss.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

One unpleasant possibility is that there were conflicts in 'artistic vision' between the previous writer(s) and management and they brought in a company lemming (writer of Disney's upcoming Cinderella) to 'polish' the script the way Disney wants. I hope it's not a repeat of Edgar Wright and Ant Man.

While I certainly appreciate that point of view and most definitely agree that it's likely that "Ant Man" would have been less "generic" under the direction of Edgar, the previous writer was awful. "After Earth" was unwatchable.

Chris Weitz, on the other hand, has been a part of some very, very good films. It's hard for me to see this move as anything other than positive at this point.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't think you can take any rumors at face value. They're still interesting to digest and discuss.

While I agree, most of these "rumors" haven't been rumors at all, but massive speculation. The Latino Review article was taking leaps and bounds based on locations. To me that's not rumor but an effort to drive traffic.