Tom Brady; least clutch QB in NFL history?

[Hootie]

(Slow day at work for me, guys):

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR is Rex Grossman bad, in case anyone wanted a reference point.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Now, explain to me how it's not choking. I'd love to hear it!

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0eMv2xklQaq



Audio recording and upload >>

Was this you?.... if so,

Its so amazing how (imagined?) voice inflection can change a post.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Was this you?...

no i hacked hooties computer and recorded him talking

LOL

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Was this you?.... if so,

Its so amazing how (imagined?) voice inflection can change a post.

It's a good way to deflect being able to rebut a post, since the post being mocked is irrefutable.

Brady choked in the biggest game of his life. Happens to the best, sometimes

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

It's a good way to deflect being able to rebut a post, since the post being mocked is irrefutable.

Brady choked in the biggest game of his life. Happens to the best, sometimes

I love you

but choking in a game or a few games doesnt take away from the body of work of a guy who has more playoff wins than 21 NFL franchises


anyone who competes at a high level knows you win some and lose some, to other high level players

you really cant deny that tom brady is clutch by any stretch of the imagination, unless you keep re-defining clutch narrower and narrower to mean something that no one else in the NFL is...

Tom Brady, simply, is at minimum top 5 to have ever played.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Was this you?.... if so,

Its so amazing how (imagined?) voice inflection can change a post.

you're a west coast guy doing an east coast, smarmy comic bastard voice that just simply kills... you sound like you're from a place that you're totally not from in that, great voicework, period.

That was cool.

[Hootie]

I think Brady is an all-timer ... I just can't recall many clutch Brady moments. That's not saying he's anti-clutch ... it's just saying, the clutch word is overused. He was clutch against Baltimore this year ... but, before that, someone give me another example this past decade

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I think Brady is an all-timer ... I just can't recall many clutch Brady moments. That's not saying he's anti-clutch ...

saying he is the 'least clutch' QB of all time....IS 100% saying he is ANTI-CLUTCH

its the same thing

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

saying he is the 'least clutch' QB of all time....IS 100% saying he is ANTI-CLUTCH

its the same thing

I asked if he was, and gave 10 years of examples

I've painted Brady in the same light as the board paints Manning to prove a point

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I asked if he was,

well, the answer is no and you know that

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I love you

but choking in a game or a few games doesnt take away from the body of work of a guy who has more playoff wins than 21 NFL franchises


anyone who competes at a high level knows you win some and lose some, to other high level players

you really cant deny that tom brady is clutch by any stretch of the imagination, unless you keep re-defining clutch narrower and narrower to mean something that no one else in the NFL is...

Tom Brady, simply, is at minimum top 5 to have ever played.

What makes that particular post funny is that he deliberately ignores:

Brady got hurt in the Chargers game and was still hurt in the Giants game

AND

Brady still led his team to the lead with 3 minutes left in that Super Bowl.


In the meantime, P. Manning was healthy when he received his 43-8 curb stomping last year.


Also,

Brady's losses in the Super Bowls have been by a combined 7 points (4 and 3), and his worst playoff loss was by 19 points (Baltimore, 2009, after losing Welker the week before).


P. Manning's losses in the Super bowl have been by 14 and 35 points, and he's twice lost playoff games by 35 points or more (41-0 to the Jets).

In Brady's 8 playoff losses, he's lost by a combined 76 points. That's the same as Peyton, if you're just adding Manning's two worse losses together, and ignoring his 11 other losses.

But Hootie's gotta Hootie...

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0eMv2xklQaq



Audio recording and upload >>

That is BY FAR the greatest post ever on this website since I've been a member. Kudos to you Mr. Pawnmower.

[beach tribe]

Knock Knock
Just thought I'd get this thread ready

[Hammock Parties]

LOL

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Numbah One

LOL

Russel Wilson with the Clutchest play EVAR!!