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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 07:38 PM   #871
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Bowe's best year was 2010. Who was the QB?
Bowe's worst year was 2009. Who was the QB?
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:39 PM   #872
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People have a tendency to pick out an aberrational number to support an argument.

The fact remains, in a run first offense, he hasn't produced the same numbers as Bowe.
Just pointing out that his effectiveness didn't change, but his production did.

On a 0-100 scale, I'd give them the following scores:

CJ 99
Fitz 97
Bowe 91
Boldin 88

The fact that Bowe hasn't had injuries or trouble with the law should give him more firepower in contract talks....that is if nothing has been "swept under the rug"
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:40 PM   #873
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There's always the chance that this process has soured Bowe on staying in KC.
Doesn't matter. Franchise him again. He really has no choice.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:40 PM   #874
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Bowe's worst year was 2009. Who was the QB?
He only played 11 games that year you tool!

His worst 16 game season was 2008 I do believe.
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On a 0-100 scale, I'd give them the following scores:

CJ 99
Fitz 97
Bowe 91
Boldin 88
I agree completely with this.

Fitz is worth 50 guaranteed.

Bowe is worth 90 percent of that.

And there is no doubt in my mind Pioli isn't offering it.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:41 PM   #876
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I'd be willing to bet that if Bowe has a good year, his pay will reflect it and he won't go anywhere.
Good one. I'm sure that's what Carr and Bowe were thinking in December.

This organization sucks balls. Bowe was THE only big dollar guy that the team decided to "try" to sign this year and they couldn't get it done. They certainly aren't going to do it next year when you have Bowe, Albert, Dorsey and whoever is needed to fill holes (most likely Colt McCoy, Tavaris Jackson or some other bad QB).
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He only played 11 games that year you tool!

His worst 16 game season was 2008 I do believe.
So?

If you can craft bullshit arguments, so can I.

Cassel has nothing to do with Bowe's success.

Nothing.
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He is going to hold out and **** the team if they franchise him 2 years in a row.

A man can only eat so much shit.
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He is going to hold out and **** the team if they franchise him 2 years in a row.

A man can only eat so much shit.
You are still an idiot.

9.5 million and then over 11 million is most definitely not "eating shit"
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He is going to hold out and **** the team if they franchise him 2 years in a row.

A man can only eat so much shit.
And if he holds out do you really believe he's going to strike gold on a contract?

If he wants a pay day he's going to play.
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Bowe's best year was 2010. Who was the QB?
Let's please not go down the Cassel rabbit hole again.

It's been scientifically proven time and time again on this forum that 2010 Cassel is not good enough to win playoff games year after year for this team. If you hold up that year as a model of success for what Bowe can accomplish, there's really nothing more I can say to you that you will comprehend.
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So?

If you can craft bullshit arguments, so can I.

Cassel has nothing to do with Bowe's success.

Nothing.
Yea, sure. He never even sniffed double digit TD's without Cassel. Just sayin'
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They probably can't even afford to tag him next season, because of the money they have to pay Albert and/or Dorsey.

He's gone.

Buh-bye, Bowe. My best buddy.
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Let's please not go down the Cassel rabbit hole again.

It's been scientifically proven time and time again on this forum that 2010 Cassel is not good enough to win playoff games year after year for this team. If you hold up that year as a model of success for what Bowe can accomplish, there's really nothing more I can say to you that you will comprehend.
Well that's the year everyone is holding up as Bowe's model of success. Otherwise WTF would you pay a 5 TD WR $100 mil?
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Yea, sure. He never even sniffed double digit TD's without Cassel. Just sayin'
7 TD in 2008 isn't sniffing?

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