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Stop blaming the play calling.
Croyle failed today because he sucks ass. Everything was called as normal except an end around. And its not like that play is called every game anyways. Croyle was in the shotgun, under center, play action, threw deep, threw short, screens, and bootlegs. The play calling was not the problem of our offense; decision making was the problem. Croyle checks down too much and tries to throw a bullet on short pass plays. His accuracy is horrible. And he is indecisive when pressured.
Here is a breakdown of his performance. After 4 straight runs gaining 13 yards and a 1st down, Croyle throws on 3rd and 10 to Copper for a WR screen losing 1 yard. Chiefs punt. After a 1 yard loss by Jones, Croyle checks down to Charles for a gain of 4 yards on 2nd and 11 while a wide open McCluster breaks to the sideline with room to run. On 3rd and 7 Croyle over throws Copper. Chiefs punt. On 1st and 10, Croyle is sacked for a 12 yard loss after a horrible attempt of a play action fake. After a run by Charles, Croyle checks down with a quick throw to Moeaki for 8 yards on 3rd and 18. Chiefs punt. After Charles gains a 1st down and 16 yards, Croyle passes on a bootleg on 2nd and 4 to Moeaki for 5 yards. After a 2 yard run by Charles, Croyle throws a deep incomplete pass out of bounds toward Bowe. From the shotgun position on 3rd and 8 Croyle checks down to Bowe on an underneath route for 3 yards. Chiefs Punt. From the shotgun position on 1st and 10, Croyle throws an incomplete pass toward Bow that was high and away from Bowe. From the shotgun position on 2nd and 10, Croyle throws over the middle to Copper for a 16 yard gain. From the shotgun position on 1st and 10, Croyle steps up in the pocket and checks down to Charles for 5 yards. From the shotgun position on 2nd and 5, Croyle throws a high pass toward Bowe deep that falls incomplete. From the shotgun position on 3rd and 5, Croyle holds the ball for 4 seconds before running back toward 2 of the 3 pass rushers and is sacked for a 11 yard loss. Halftime. After two rushes by Charles and a gain of 3 yards, Croyle targets Bowe again and again throws an incomplete pass on 3rd and 7. He never takes his eyes off Bowe and throws a bullet that a diving Bowe cannot handle. Chiefs punt. After two rushes by Charles and a gain of 4 yards, Croyle targets Bowe again and again throws an incomplete pass on 3rd and 16. Croyle play fakes to an invisible RB, bootlegs and throws to a covered Bowe on the sideline. Chiefs punt. On 1st and 10, Croyle looks right, cocks to throw but never does and is sacked for a 6 yard loss. On 2nd and 16, Croyle under throws Bowe deep and the ball is deflected by the defender for an incomplete pass. On 3rd and 16 from the shotgun position, Croyle throws a screen pass toward Charles into the hands of a defensive lineman for an incomplete pass. Chiefs punt. On 1st and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle's 18 yard pass is well defended and falls incomplete. Tucker never gets his hands on the ball. On 2nd and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle's 13 yard pass is knocked down by the defender and falls incomplete. Tucker never touches the ball. On 3rd and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle steps up in the pocket, pump fakes and is sacked; never releasing the ball even though McCluster is apparently open near the first down marker. Chiefs punt. Palko enters the game and goes 2 of 3 for 8 yards. Croyle's day is done going 7 of 17 for 40 yards. |
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12-13-2010, 03:06 AM
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Derek Anderson signed a 7 million dollar contract for two years after going to Az as a quasi backup/starter.
Do you really think that Brodie Croyle would command more on the open market than Alexander, who at the very least has made a Pro Bowl and can stay upright, even if he pretty clearly sucks out loud.
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well I predicted the Jets would finish at 10-6 last week before the Pats game and I think I'll be right there... that team is a pretender The Ravens are better than I expected but because of their defense, not Joe Flacco...they won't go anywhere with Flacco The Texans were a disappointment...they were a favorite of mine before the year but Schaub has regressed and Kubiak is a moron. BUT I'm pretty sure you were one of the guys telling me the Jets were a lock for their division and the Pats were too flawed to compete... because I was laughing my ass off before the season when the betting odds came out and had the Jets as the division favorite...stating the Pats (with odds) was like stealing money future bet wise... that's a real thread on here and I'm sure being the search guru you are you could find it...but I'm very lazy about that kind of stuff |
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if Croyle lit it up and the Chiefs won...it would have basically locked up the 3 seed for us... people would have noticed... He could have VERY EASILY signed on for a 5 year, $30M contract with $10-11M guaranteed... VERY EASILY |
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you know...
I'm probably wrong here... it looks like the going rate for potential is about 2 years and 10M or so... still that's going to look like a ton compared to what he's going to get now...I wouldn't even be surprised if he was out of the NFL next year...like I said...his best chance is to pray we resign him now |
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But hey, who needs facts when you can just score some Adderall and make shit up, eh?
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After last weeks squeaker, being away against a team that dumped a big game to the raiders, starting qb out, I pretty much gave us a 30 % or less chance of winning this game. The funny thing is it looked like, from my feeble vantage point, that it was called like a preseason game. |
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I agree with this. But how many people here blamed playcalling or the offensive line when the Chiefs barely beat Cleveland? Or when the Chiefs lost to Indy? 99% of the blame fell on Cassel's shoulders. That's the way it should be, but we can't dish out that kind of criticism to one QB and not the other. Croyle today was even worse than Cassel's worst game. While Cassel shit the bed against Cleveland, he also threw for 176 yards with 16 completions. When we won, this whole board teed off on Cassel. Rightfully so. The Chiefs won in spite of Cassel. Today, we're talking about receivers, defense, offensive line, etc.... I get that our defense played much better against Cleveland than they played against Indy, but if we're going to blame the QB for a win against CLeveland, you have to blame the QB for a loss against San Diego. If these guys are the leaders of the team |
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I won't bash the actual play called as much as the personel.
I knew KC was in trouble when Thomas Jones was still getting carries early and the first pass was designed for Terrance Copper. With Charles, Moeaki, Bowe and McCluster on your team, those should be the 5th and 6th options and they were FEATURED out of the gate. Utter fail.
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On the first series, I said in the game thread, they had the handcuffs on Brodie. Just like they did Cassel last year. It put them behind, then the San Diego defense was able predict the Chiefs offense. San Diego knew what they had to defend, there was no surprise and they crushed the plays, they didn't just stop them, they crushed them. Brodie was clearly rusty, nervous, and sucked ass, as did the rest of the team. |
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Stop blaming the play calling.
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