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commercial grade fertilizer the 13/17 refers to the % amount of phosphorus, nitrogen, potassium in the mix. its what damn near everyone uses north to south. If you knew your PH level you could add or detract what was needed to make the soil more or less acidic as needed, between 4-7 is the basic guideline on soil ph.
edit- had a truck. But anyway this will explain ph better than i can. if you dont wanna screw w/ it just sprinkle a teaspoon of 3-13 around each plant and abit less 3-17. i paid i think 10$ for a 50# bag and spead it over the yard and garden then kept some in reserve for spot fertilization. This is how i learned to do it from dad & grandpa. http://soil.gsfc.nasa.gov/soil_pH/plant_pH.htm
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I won't amend or fertilize my soil... stuff just grows crazy huge around here. Its old but undisturbed black adobe that is so rich in nutrients that plants often exceed 2X their advertised heights. If I amend the soil for better aeration, roots find it too easy to build an extensive network and plants get all gargantuan and unruly. I also withhold water as much as possible to get plant size down to manageable. I abandoned some hybrid-tea rose bushes 12 years ago along the back fence... never sprayed or pruned or watered 'em. Now they are 8-ft monsters covered in blooms. I figure tomato plants would grow too big like all the other plants do... so I'll treat 'em mean & hope they don't go humongous on me.
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EDIT: I are dumbass. Looked at some osmocote, and it is similar. I'm picking up what you're throwing down. I'm not concerned about Phosphorous. Conditioned cow manure has a ****load of phos in it. I would be nitrogen deficient if anything. I may put down some osmocote I bought if the plants start looking nitrogen deficient. Thanks for the help, Mo. |
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Dang. I'm starting to feel really sorry for my topsy turvy tomato plant. He's growing like crazy, but he's twisting himself all around trying to turn his leaves right-side-up so he can get some sun. He's ... all contorted. It's like he's being tortured. I don't think this is right.
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i've always used year old cow manure for my 'maters. there's nothing better in the world.
on a slight hi-jack note here, I've planted potatoes for the first time this year and the plants are HUGE. anyone have any tips on ensuring that I will have usuable taters later this fall? |
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Goes for $300 a bag, but i'll cut ya a CP discount of 20%
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On a side note, you need to get busy with crossing a tomatoe plant and some kind of quality weed plant of your choice. You could eat the tomatoe's and sell the weed. I'm telling you, you would make millions.
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$300? How big is the bag?
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heads up late blight on the loose. http://www.rodale.com/tomato-blight?...17-_-Top5-_-NA
FTR you used to be able to buy copper sulfate in 5# pales for algea blooms. If you use this product understand that its extremely hard on invertibrates and the renial systems of quadrupeds so keep it away from pets esp. canines. Its great for chickens though, cleans out the gut. if you have sick baby chicks run a teaspoon per 5 gallons of water every other day untill you see improvement or cull. Super hard on Bees! Anyway if you wanna go the organic route itll save you $ to buy it in the bulk copper sulfate, than it will buying the 16oz spray. i prefer that oldtime hate but i know you hippys like the organic shit. Oh and hows everyones crop coming along????
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10 Organic Garden Aids Epson Salt Spray: 2 ounces of salt per 2 gallons water. Benefits: Helps with Black Spot, Mildew, Wilt and Rust Mineral Oil Spray: 3 parts oil per 100 parts water. Benefits: Helps with Aphids, Codling Moth, Leaf Roller, Mealybugs, Scaled Insects, White Fly Beer: Stale or mixed with molasses Benefits: Helps control Slugs Tomato Leaves Spray: Crush leaves and soak in water for a couple days. Strain then spray. Benefits: Grasshopper and White Fly control Soap Spray: 2 TBS soap flakes dissolved in 1 quart water. *Don’t use detergents. Benefits: Aphid control Basil: Plant in pots and place around patio or deck Benefits: Repels flies and mosquitoes Rosemary, Mint, Thyme: Plant near cabbage Benefits: Repels cabbage worms Nasturtiums: Plant near cucumbers, melons and squashes. Benefits: Repels squash bugs Summer Savory: Plant near beans Benefits: Repels bean beetles Radishes: Plant near cucumbers Benefits: Repels cucumber beetles
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Because I live on the top of a hill in the SD plain I get plenty of wind. I wrap the cages in plastic and it seems to have worked. Plants are getting stronger and are almost ready for the plastic to come off. Large threat of heavy storms through the weekend so I'll wait to remove it next week. |
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