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Old 09-20-2013, 05:25 PM   #1
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why you so angry at PFF? Just because the english doesn't brush there teeth doesn't mean you can hate them
Using PFF stats and rankings to decide which players are better than others would be like using your post to teach a grammar class.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:31 PM   #2
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Using PFF stats and rankings to decide which players are better than others would be like using your post to teach a grammar class.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:36 PM   #3
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why you so angry at PFF? Just because the english doesn't brush there teeth doesn't mean you can hate them
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:16 PM   #4
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Statistics company started by an Englishman who has never played a down of football and had never watched a football game live when he started the company, but people spend time arguing about he grades they give players. This is he equivalent of walking up to a bum on the street, handing him your retirement savings, and asking him to invest the money for you just because he was using the Wall Street Journal for a blanket.
they're definitely useful for certain things, but theres a large grain of truth here.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:26 PM   #5
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There are some other interesting notes on Alex Smith, BTW.

Currently has attempted only 4 passes over 20 yards (1 completion). (30th)

13th in accuracy percentage (not bad but he was near the top in SF)

His receivers have dropped the 5th highest percentage of passes so far.

4th highest sack percentage when under pressure (not surprising)

23rd in completion percentage when under pressure

He is performing poorly when he actually has time to throw. He actually leads the league in number of dropbacks of 2.6 seconds or more. Only completing half of his passes in those situations, with 8 sacks.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:59 PM   #6
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There are some other interesting notes on Alex Smith, BTW.

Currently has attempted only 4 passes over 20 yards (1 completion). (30th)

13th in accuracy percentage (not bad but he was near the top in SF)

His receivers have dropped the 5th highest percentage of passes so far.

4th highest sack percentage when under pressure (not surprising)

23rd in completion percentage when under pressure

He is performing poorly when he actually has time to throw. He actually leads the league in number of dropbacks of 2.6 seconds or more. Only completing half of his passes in those situations, with 8 sacks.
Wait, is this 2013, or 2010?
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:05 PM   #7
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Wait, is this 2013, or 2010?
Cassel won 22 out of 28 starts?
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:03 PM   #8
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There are some other interesting notes on Alex Smith, BTW.

Currently has attempted only 4 passes over 20 yards (1 completion). (30th)

13th in accuracy percentage (not bad but he was near the top in SF)

His receivers have dropped the 5th highest percentage of passes so far.

4th highest sack percentage when under pressure (not surprising)

23rd in completion percentage when under pressure

He is performing poorly when he actually has time to throw. He actually leads the league in number of dropbacks of 2.6 seconds or more. Only completing half of his passes in those situations, with 8 sacks.
Seems like he's pressing too hard to not throw an INT.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:08 PM   #9
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There are some other interesting notes on Alex Smith, BTW.

Currently has attempted only 4 passes over 20 yards (1 completion). (30th)

13th in accuracy percentage (not bad but he was near the top in SF)

His receivers have dropped the 5th highest percentage of passes so far.

4th highest sack percentage when under pressure (not surprising)

23rd in completion percentage when under pressure

He is performing poorly when he actually has time to throw. He actually leads the league in number of dropbacks of 2.6 seconds or more. Only completing half of his passes in those situations, with 8 sacks.
I'm tell you, this is because he scrambles and NO ONE is getting open. He throws it away. It's an "incompletion," yes, but it's not that cut and dried. I am not seeing a lot of times where he is missing a wide open receiver and throwing it away or forcing a bad pass that is broken up.

He's playing frustratingly safe football. I want to see some ****ing downfield completions, but I can't complain that much when we are winning the turnover battle so handily.

Incidentally, this explains two things to me perfectly:

1. The difference between Smith and Cassel. I mean besides the obvious that Smith is an intelligent, athletic, talented, albeit limited QB who isn't made of human excrement. when Cassel got in trouble and DIDN'T go fetal, he would either take a terrible sack or he would throw the ball up for grabs and hope one of his big targets comes down with it. This led to either Bowe coming up with an insanely awesome catch or another dogshit interception. Smith just doesn't do that. Which leads me to the second thing that this explains to me...

2. Jon Baldwin was completely worthless to Alex Smith. Once again, Smith will only throw to an open receiver. A safe pass. He isn't going to chuck it to a tall leaper and hope that he comes down with a jump ball. Basically, the only thing Baldwin could do.

"I don't throw jump balls. I need wide receivers to get separation."

"O, rly? I only do jump balls. I can't get separation."

"Yeah..."

Can we figure out a way to draft Marquis Lee next year?
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:10 PM   #10
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I'm tell you, this is because he scrambles and NO ONE is getting open.
I think he abandons the pocket too quickly.

If he senses a hint of pressure he wants to completely bail out.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:11 PM   #11
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I think he abandons the pocket too quickly.

If he senses a hint of pressure he wants to completely bail out.
I agree with this. Looks like a dude playing Madden.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:17 PM   #12
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I'm tell you, this is because he scrambles and NO ONE is getting open. He throws it away. It's an "incompletion," yes, but it's not that cut and dried. I am not seeing a lot of times where he is missing a wide open receiver and throwing it away or forcing a bad pass that is broken up.

He's playing frustratingly safe football. I want to see some ****ing downfield completions, but I can't complain that much when we are winning the turnover battle so handily.

Incidentally, this explains two things to me perfectly:

1. The difference between Smith and Cassel. I mean besides the obvious that Smith is an intelligent, athletic, talented, albeit limited QB who isn't made of human excrement. when Cassel got in trouble and DIDN'T go fetal, he would either take a terrible sack or he would throw the ball up for grabs and hope one of his big targets comes down with it. This led to either Bowe coming up with an insanely awesome catch or another dogshit interception. Smith just doesn't do that. Which leads me to the second thing that this explains to me...

2. Jon Baldwin was completely worthless to Alex Smith. Once again, Smith will only throw to an open receiver. A safe pass. He isn't going to chuck it to a tall leaper and hope that he comes down with a jump ball. Basically, the only thing Baldwin could do.

"I don't throw jump balls. I need wide receivers to get separation."

"O, rly? I only do jump balls. I can't get separation."

"Yeah..."

Can we figure out a way to draft Marquis Lee next year?
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:54 PM   #15
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PFF is a very useful tool. It isn't gospel and people love to cherry pick it though.
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