Chiefs MEDIA REACTIONS: Chiefs Early Draft Losers on NFLN - Page 6

**J Diddy** · 05-10-2014, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I think we all realize you can't really judge a draft for years.

But this is the only nfl we get right now, so people want to discuss their opinions.

This.

You know you're hard up for some NFL action when you endure 3 days listening to Mel Kiper talk.

Just Passin' By · 05-10-2014, 11:47 PM

Where do people think Rosenthal is wrong? Here's his list:

Rough free agency

Ford - nice long term gamble, but should be a PTPer at first

Gaines - developmental prospect

Thomas - wild card

Seeming dearth of immediate impact players from draft

OL and WR still major questions

BryanBusby · 05-10-2014, 11:34 PM

The draft that CP likes as a whole is the time I really start to get nervous.

ToxSocks · 05-10-2014, 11:43 PM

I liked this draft too. It felt like a solid draft. I like the Ford, Thomas and Murray picks. The Canadian guy sounds interesting too.

mcaj22 · 05-11-2014, 12:05 AM

and before you counter with, "that's a stupid way to look at it." take our 3 only good impact players that we got after 5 years of drafting. You could tell from day 1 that Berry, Poe and Houston were going to be good players, from day 1 to their 5th year in the league, it doesn't matter. Can you honestly say that about anyone we picked from 2009 to 2013 besides those 3?

**Rausch** · 05-11-2014, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

and before you counter with, "that's a stupid way to look at it." take our 3 only good impact players that we got after 5 years of drafting. You could tell from day 1 that Berry, Poe and Houston were going to be good players, from day 1 to their 5th year in the league, it doesn't matter. Can you honestly say that about anyone we picked from 2009 to 2013 besides those 3?

I'd include Hudson as a good player. Definitely a lot of upside.

And Poe I'm not sold on yet. In two years he's played 6-8 good games...

Jamie · 05-11-2014, 12:37 AM

The more I think about this draft the more sense it makes. We could have gone all in to compete next year, but we would have ****ed ourselves long term with the cap, and it probably would have been for naught anyway because the schedule is going to be so tough. Drafting for 2015 is probably the smartest thing we could do. This team has spent most of the past 20 years plugging holes, desperately trying to stay within spitting distance of 9 wins and a wild card. It's pointless.

**mdchiefsfan** · 05-11-2014, 12:39 AM

The truth that accompanies a Draft as risky as this one is that people on both sides of the fence are salivating to either be right or wrong about Dorsey. His BPA seems to defy most others', so he is definitely putting himself out there to be judged. Which one will it be: right or wrong? Time will tell, but I respect a man sticking to his guns.

**Rausch** · 05-11-2014, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

The truth that accompanies a Draft as risky as this one is that people on both sides of the fence are salivating to either be right or wrong about Dorsey. His BPA seems to defy most others', so he is definitely putting himself out there to be judged. Which one will it be: right or wrong? Time will tell, but I respect a man sticking to his guns.

BPA is a GM's way of saying they're going to draft whomever the hell they want, even if it doesn't fill a need.

You win playoff games no one cares how you do things.

You lose games and don't win playoff games and, like with Herm, no one cares how much talent you added...

OldSchool · 05-11-2014, 01:09 AM

We took a bunch of athletic phenoms, besides the QB obviously, who were productive in college and have major upside at positions that we need some help at, I have absolutely no problem with that.

OldSchool · 05-11-2014, 01:11 AM

I am pretty sure that what happened with the Gaines vs Moncrief pick was that Dorsey took a good look at the second half of the season and the play off game and asked himself:

"What really lost us those games?"

And that obviously led him to selecting a guy that he thought would help upgrade the defense.

Iconic · 05-11-2014, 01:30 AM

I can't tell which is more dramatic: Post-Draft CP meltdowns or these NFL Grades.

Messier · 05-11-2014, 03:16 AM

Yes, grading the draft immediately after its over is silly, but that's always been how it goes. I do think it's funny that, individually, almost every pick was given a good grade, but taken as a whole, the Chiefs lost the draft.

I don't know, but I think Dorsey did this correctly, taking players that fall, even if they don't line up perfectly to your needs, because they're just good value.

**the Talking Can** · 05-11-2014, 05:58 AM

hey, teams with top 10 picks in every round had a better draft than the Chiefs who only had 1 pick in the top 80!

this is very insightful, according to the idiot who thinks matt cassel is a franchise QB

Messier · 05-11-2014, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

hey, teams with top 10 picks in every round had a better draft than the Chiefs who only had 1 pick in the top 80!

this is very insightful, according to the idiot who thinks matt cassel is a franchise QB

Every year, the teams with multiple first round picks are deemed winners. Wow. The insight is incredible.

05-10-2014, 11:47 PM	#2
Just Passin' By In Search of a Life Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $5460524	Where do people think Rosenthal is wrong? Here's his list: Rough free agency Ford - nice long term gamble, but should be a PTPer at first Gaines - developmental prospect Thomas - wild card Seeming dearth of immediate impact players from draft OL and WR still major questions
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05-10-2014, 11:34 PM	#3
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3689900 VARSITY	The draft that CP likes as a whole is the time I really start to get nervous.
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05-10-2014, 11:43 PM	#4
ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $3874563	I liked this draft too. It felt like a solid draft. I like the Ford, Thomas and Murray picks. The Canadian guy sounds interesting too.
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05-11-2014, 12:05 AM	#5
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	and before you counter with, "that's a stupid way to look at it." take our 3 only good impact players that we got after 5 years of drafting. You could tell from day 1 that Berry, Poe and Houston were going to be good players, from day 1 to their 5th year in the league, it doesn't matter. Can you honestly say that about anyone we picked from 2009 to 2013 besides those 3?
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05-11-2014, 12:37 AM	#7
Jamie Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $948503	The more I think about this draft the more sense it makes. We could have gone all in to compete next year, but we would have ****ed ourselves long term with the cap, and it probably would have been for naught anyway because the schedule is going to be so tough. Drafting for 2015 is probably the smartest thing we could do. This team has spent most of the past 20 years plugging holes, desperately trying to stay within spitting distance of 9 wins and a wild card. It's pointless.
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05-11-2014, 12:39 AM	#8
mdchiefsfan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Casino cash: $3243904	The truth that accompanies a Draft as risky as this one is that people on both sides of the fence are salivating to either be right or wrong about Dorsey. His BPA seems to defy most others', so he is definitely putting himself out there to be judged. Which one will it be: right or wrong? Time will tell, but I respect a man sticking to his guns. __________________ 2017 Adopt-A-Chief:TYREEK HILL
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05-11-2014, 01:09 AM	#10
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	We took a bunch of athletic phenoms, besides the QB obviously, who were productive in college and have major upside at positions that we need some help at, I have absolutely no problem with that.
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05-11-2014, 01:11 AM	#11
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	I am pretty sure that what happened with the Gaines vs Moncrief pick was that Dorsey took a good look at the second half of the season and the play off game and asked himself: "What really lost us those games?" And that obviously led him to selecting a guy that he thought would help upgrade the defense.
Posts: 12,727

05-11-2014, 01:30 AM	#12
Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $3900360	I can't tell which is more dramatic: Post-Draft CP meltdowns or these NFL Grades. __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley
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05-11-2014, 03:16 AM	#13
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	Yes, grading the draft immediately after its over is silly, but that's always been how it goes. I do think it's funny that, individually, almost every pick was given a good grade, but taken as a whole, the Chiefs lost the draft. I don't know, but I think Dorsey did this correctly, taking players that fall, even if they don't line up perfectly to your needs, because they're just good value.
Posts: 7,610

05-11-2014, 05:58 AM	#14
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	hey, teams with top 10 picks in every round had a better draft than the Chiefs who only had 1 pick in the top 80! this is very insightful, according to the idiot who thinks matt cassel is a franchise QB __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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