Chiefs Andy Reid on Charles and Houston - Page 6

Mr. Laz · 08-12-2016, 12:16 PM

On Rich Eisen Show

Charles day-to-day can only work with training staff but looks really good doing what he's doing.

Positive vibes about Charles being ready to go soon imo

"Houston is going to take much longer than Charles because of when injury occurred."

"we hope to get him back this season"

I was shocked about how doubtful he sounded about Houston.

Chiefnj2 · 08-12-2016, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No, but the essentially tore it when they replaced it.

The injury may have been different but the treatment was largely similar; they both had their knees reconstructed and at that point it's simply up to the vagaries of the human body.

There's no telling how Houston's knee will handle the ACL replacement vs. anyone else's.

Without knowing his injury I don't think you can automatically conclude that the surgery or treatment was the same.

RunKC · 08-12-2016, 07:30 PM

Justin Houston being out for the year would be a complete anomaly. ACL tear construction rehab is usually 9 months.

If Houston isn't back for the playoffs, which would be 11 months from his surgery, something either went horribly wrong or the Chiefs lied to us about his injury in the first place.

OldSchool · 08-12-2016, 07:55 PM

Well, guess we get to see what Dee Ford has in the tank full time this year.

Chiefshrink · 08-12-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Exactly. Nothing new here. I'd be shocked if he misses the entire season.

I wouldn't be shocked. Why do you think Dorsey changed his tune with Mellinger ? Had to save face now that he realizes recovery is going much slower.

Chiefshrink · 08-12-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Well, guess we get to see what Dee Ford has in the tank full time this year.

Have a bad feeling about Ford. Don't think he will be 'the man'. Hope I am wrong.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-12-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Have a bad feeling about Ford. Don't think he will be 'the man'. Hope I am wrong.

You also said Mike Wiliams would dominate and he hasn't done shit

Chiefshrink · 08-12-2016, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I still wonder if it's a nerve issue. When they say the ligament was unresponsive, that's what I thought from the beginning.

Is this similar to the Lattimore / Jaylon Smith situation ??

Chiefshrink · 08-12-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You also said Mike Wiliams would dominate and he hasn't done shit

Pre-season starts tomorrow. Gamers "game".

mcaj22 · 08-12-2016, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

He can be put on the active roster and then just be inactive each week.

It's not like it's full snaps or nothing.

The team just has to make a decision about full IR at that time.

It's a roster decision week 11 not necessarily a 'play' decision

to come off the PUP list, he has to actually practice. You can't just take him off the PUP list and let him wear street clothes on Sunday. That would defeat the purpose of a PUP list lol.

If he doesn't practice by a certain week the PUP list turns into a season ending IR designation.

**jjchieffan** · 08-12-2016, 09:13 PM

A player who finishes the preseason still on the PUP list can then be placed on the regular-season PUP list. Such players must sit out the first six weeks of the regular season. At that point, teams have a five-week window in which to allow the player to begin practicing; from the day the player begins practicing, teams have an additional 21-day window in which to decide whether to activate the player to the 53-man roster. If either of those deadlines pass, the player must remain on the PUP list for the remainder of the season.[1]

**jjchieffan** · 08-12-2016, 09:15 PM

So according to what I just shared, he can begin practicing anytime between week 6 and week 11, then they have 3 more weeks to activate him. Si, theoretically, he could start practicing week 11 and not be activated until week 14

TEX · 08-12-2016, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I heard basically the same thing from Reid and Dorsey on the NFL Radio training camp stop with the Chiefs. Was pretty much "Tamba and Jamaal will be back soon...but who knows if Justin will be back this season - gee, we sure hope so..."

Reading between the lines it sounds like Houston is out for the year.

This combined with losing Sean Smith leads me to believe that the Chiefs defense will be middle-of-the-pack this year. Hopefully, the offense starts clicking.

I don't know about the "out for the year" part, but I've felt all along the offense was going to have to step up this year regardless.

OldSchool · 08-12-2016, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Have a bad feeling about Ford. Don't think he will be 'the man'. Hope I am wrong.

I think that Ford is capable of being a consistent 40-50 tackles and 9-11 sacks a year type of guy. He's not going to be a Houston level player, a true game changer, but he'll be a good starter.

Dunerdr · 08-12-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

I think that Ford is capable of being a consistent 40-50 tackles and 9-11 sacks a year type of guy. He's not going to be a Houston level player, a true game changer, but he'll be a good starter.

Probably an average guy with above average pass rush ability. And most likely below average run game ability. In all reality I don't care if he gets 20 sacks or not if he can get the critical game changer 4 times a season that's more important. To me he seems like a guy who's more motivated to be that highlight guy than the best at his position. Maybe that's just the immaturity I sense.

suzzer99 · 08-13-2016, 12:16 AM

We could have won the SB last year with a healthy Houston, Charles and Maclin. Or maybe even 2 of those 3 (Charles being the least important). Nobody was that dominant and we were on a roll.

This team is so snakebit. When the Royals started their run in 2014 I kept expecting someone to like fail to touch home on a home run or something and we end up losing and out of the playoffs. At the end of the 2015 ALCS I was sure Hos came off first too soon on Donaldson's ground out.

The Chiefs have conditioned me to expect disaster in the most creatively painful ways. Still better than the Browns though

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