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Old 04-27-2009, 10:25 AM  
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If there was any doubt Belichik was running the show all along in New England

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third round picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.

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Old 04-27-2009, 12:48 PM   #76
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Difference is after Pioli was hired Patriots fans came here and said great hire.

I find it intresting that "Drinking the kool-aid" now means all takes that aren't everything sucks.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:49 PM   #77
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Setting your franchise QB up for slaughter under the likes of Sackintosh = FAIL.
The line will be better. I wouldn't be at all surprised if McIntosh isn't the starter.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:59 PM   #78
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:26 PM   #79
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:29 PM   #80
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The line will be better. I wouldn't be at all surprised if McIntosh isn't the starter.
Free agent replacement or one of the guys on the roster?

You can't possibly be referring to Colin Blow?
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:32 PM   #81
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The line will be better. I wouldn't be at all surprised if McIntosh isn't the starter.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:34 PM   #82
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Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

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Old 04-27-2009, 01:34 PM   #83
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Free agent replacement or one of the guys on the roster?

You can't possibly be referring to Colin Blow?
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:37 PM   #84
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tell me how the Chiefs could have done what the Patriots did?

The Patriots had like 8 of the first 100 picks...and they probably have a roster that can fit MAYBE 7 or 8 rookies on it, tops...so they had all the leverage in the world to do whatever they wanted with those picks...whereas we had a pick that was impossible to trade...

People are ****ing stupid.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:39 PM   #85
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tell me how the Chiefs could have done what the Patriots did?

The Patriots had like 8 of the first 100 picks...and they probably have a roster that can fit MAYBE 7 or 8 rookies on it, tops...so they had all the leverage in the world to do whatever they wanted with those picks...whereas we had a pick that was impossible to trade...

People are ****ing stupid.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:39 PM   #86
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Free agent replacement or one of the guys on the roster?

You can't possibly be referring to Colin Blow?
Based on the fact that Pioli was closely watching the linemen at mini-camp and the subsequent fact that we didn't draft anybody other than Brown, I would say it's a safe guess that they think the guys we have are good enough. But who knows?
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:42 PM   #87
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Based on the fact that Pioli was closely watching the linemen at mini-camp and the subsequent fact that we didn't draft anybody other than Brown, I would say it's a safe guess that they think the guys we have are good enough. But who knows?
who knows about "blow" also? he could work out, people are listening to the meccas WAY too much. i found it very funny that mecca ran to NFLDC to try and find out something about "blow" and when he found nothing the player automatically sucks. even came out later and said the guy was slow footed and got beat alot, yet like i said he knew NOTHING about him when he was picked and couldnt find out anything from his other websites
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OP is a ****ing douche.

Let the idiots continue to ignore the fact hat we were picking at #3, a spot that was regarded as untradeable by the majority of GM's and draft commentators, simply because the level of talent there did not warrant the amount of money to sign them, nor the amount of picks one would have to give up to acquire the #3 pick.

Then you have the Pats with the 2nd tier pick in the first round. They have few needs, and took advantage of their position in a weak draft. They sat back and accepted offers for any team that wanted to snag a falling "star". The Pats take players that they can use for what they already have, we do not have this luxury yet, as we are trying to build it still.

I guess it is just easier to be an idiot and disregard the common sense issues of life and reality, but then there isnt much use living when you are that ignorant.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:02 PM   #89
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Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks. Everybody knows the trade chart is now dead when you're talking about top 5 picks and he was too tight to trade out of that #3 spot for what was offered. If he wanted out he coulda got out. Even Sanches said there was a lot of discussion about him going #3. Even if the Chiefs only picked up a 2nd rounder you can then parlay that 2nd rounder into extra picks like Belichik did. He coulda still used a mid to late 1st round pick on a solid d-tackle that could play at 5-technique if he wanted. Hell, that's what the Steelers did. Or he coulda traded down again witha mid to late 1st rounder. Bottom line is this team could've used a lot more quality picks.

I don't even want to get into the way the picks were used on the 2nd day.
So you're saying that Pioli wasn't a part of the Patriot's success because he didn't take a horrible trade to move down? He's not part of the Patriot's success because he wouldn't accept a single 2nd round pick to move out of the #3?

That's the dumbest damn thing I've heard all day. You fail drastically.
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OP is a ****ing douche.

Let the idiots continue to ignore the fact hat we were picking at #3, a spot that was regarded as untradeable by the majority of GM's and draft commentators, simply because the level of talent there did not warrant the amount of money to sign them, nor the amount of picks one would have to give up to acquire the #3 pick.

Then you have the Pats with the 2nd tier pick in the first round. They have few needs, and took advantage of their position in a weak draft. They sat back and accepted offers for any team that wanted to snag a falling "star". The Pats take players that they can use for what they already have, we do not have this luxury yet, as we are trying to build it still.

I guess it is just easier to be an idiot and disregard the common sense issues of life and reality, but then there isnt much use living when you are that ignorant.
This. I don't recall Bill Belichick trading down from No 6 in the 2001 draft after coaching the team to a 6-10 season the year before. They had a lot of needs as I recall. It's nice now to have a championship team in place where you pick low and can afford to trade picks and surplus players around and stockpile picks for the following year to do the same...
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