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Old 01-08-2007, 08:39 AM  
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There is no reason not to let Green go
seriously. This should be a no brainer. He's 37 and his skills have drastically declined.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:41 PM   #76
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F'N PLEASE, You dont think that a lot of that came later in the game when the D's legs felt like grape jelly???

BULLSHITE!!!
As has been mentioned, much of the yardage was in the first half. I don't think the D cost us the game -- certainly not. They played much better than the offense. But to suggest that they made major strides is laughably absurd.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:46 PM   #77
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I think KC had an improved DEF, but it wasn't a world beater... they were good enough to limit Indy to 9 points early, otherwise it would have been uglier earlier. Indy still had the ball for nearly 40 minutes and Manning set a new playoff best with completions in a single game.

That being said... the defense does have a nice future though with huge room for improvement in 07.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:48 PM   #78
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As has been mentioned, much of the yardage was in the first half. I don't think the D cost us the game -- certainly not. They played much better than the offense. But to suggest that they made major strides is laughably absurd.
They kept us close for 3/4 of the game, ON THE ROAD, against a HIGH-FLYING O , in the PLAYOFFS.

If THATS not a major step...then what the HELL is???
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:49 PM   #79
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They kept us close for 3/4 of the game, ON THE ROAD, against a HIGH-FLYING O , in the PLAYOFFS.

If THATS not a major step...then what the HELL is???
Save your ammo. They don't see it because of emotion.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:51 PM   #80
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seriously. This should be a no brainer. He's 37 and his skills have drastically declined.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:53 PM   #81
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Pardon me if this has already been said, but I am at work and don't have time to read every post on this thread. I am not ready to put all the blame on Green. I saw alot of catchable passes that either hit the receivers in the hands or numbers that didn't get caught.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:56 PM   #82
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seriously. This should be a no brainer. He's 37 and his skills have drastically declined.
In this case, it may not be so much a skill problem as it is a skull problem, Mr. Tuckdaddy.

That and the fact that it's kinda hard to find a receiver when a DE is grinding your face into the carpet.

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Old 01-08-2007, 01:03 PM   #83
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Pardon me if this has already been said, but I am at work and don't have time to read every post on this thread. I am not ready to put all the blame on Green. I saw alot of catchable passes that either hit the receivers in the hands or numbers that didn't get caught.
agreed ... i don't know that Green threw a bad pass in 1st half, did he?


2/3 drops and 1 sack ... that's about it.



Green had some poor throws later in the game ... but it was already desperation time.


Green didn't play well ... but didn't play crappy either
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:05 PM   #84
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They kept us close for 3/4 of the game, ON THE ROAD, against a HIGH-FLYING O , in the PLAYOFFS.

If THATS not a major step...then what the HELL is???
Look, I'll go so far as to say the defense played "well". That's far from saying that we have turned some corner and that the defense is going to be really good next year. One game against a team that has a proclivity to choke in the playoffs simply isn't a large enough sample size. How about we choose Cleveland as our one game.

I'm hardly bashing the defense. I just fail to see how this impacts next season at all.

I went back and looked at the stats. Holding Indy to 5.4 yards per play is pretty darn good. They racked up the yards because they were able to run so many plays against the Herminated offense. But again, 5.4 yards is pretty darn good, but it's not great, and it's one frickin' game against a QB who tried to choke it away.
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:09 PM   #85
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In this case, it may not be so much a skill problem as it is a skull problem, Mr. Tuckdaddy.

That and the fact that it's kinda hard to find a receiver when a DE is grinding your face into the carpet.

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I'm not blaming Green for Indy but anyone can see that he's not the same. His arm has gone weak and he does not show the command he had.
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Were it not for the D, the score could very well have been 43-8.

I was NEVER prouder of them than in that game.

This D could be MONSTROUS in 07.

Thats where my $$$ is.
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:18 PM   #87
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I'm not blaming Green for Indy but anyone can see that he's not the same. His arm has gone weak and he does not show the command he had.
Every time Green has struggled since 2001, everyone always says his arm has gone (or IS) weak. Green relies on good mechanics to generate his power. It's hard to have good mechanics with Jordan Black at LT and LJ as a blocker.

I don't think Green is washed up. Send him to Washington, and I think he shines. There is simply no reason to keep him around here in this Herminated offense, though. It's just going to diminish his standing in the community, and beat the hell out of his body, and lower his career QB rating. And he'll lose a lot of football games. He's a great system QB, but Herm doesn't believe in systems. Chicago may be a good fit, too. I certainly wish the guy the best of luck.

Edit: Detroit may not be bad for trent, either. Martz is there. I think Martz loves Kitna, though.
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Were it not for the D, the score could very well have been 43-8.

I was NEVER prouder of them than in that game.

This D could be MONSTROUS in 07.

Thats where my $$$ is.
You simply cannot have a very good D with what we have at DT. That position has to be upgraded.
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1 more year for Green and have Croyle backing him up and learning. He'd have a great teacher. There is NO reason to ditch Green this coming season. No way Croyle is ready right now. Why sign another QB to stop gap 1 year?!
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